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    Re: One way trip to Mars

    Oh, and "space" research is now literally MILLIONS OF LIGHT YEARS past our solar system. Taking about "exploring Mars" is kindergarten astronomy. They got what Mars is made of LONG ago and are way, way past that. The science community in terms of space knowledge would not want a trillion dollars diverted from REAL research exploring the universe.

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    Re: One way trip to Mars

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    No, it isn't "just down the road." How is Mar's rich?

    There was a lot of talk and even a couple companies trying to promote mining an asteroid. However, when looked by economists, even if it was made of pure gold and platinum, it doesn't work economically.

    I'll ask it again. What can a manned probe do that a remote probe cannot? For size and survivability issues, a remote probe can have 100 times as much equipment and 1/100th the risks - and can stay there and function virtually indefinitely.

    Do you have any clue of the challenges, prices and size of a spacecraft that has to support a crew and travel for 1 year (there and back) is? What is your budget for this adventure question? Plus big enough for landing and take off fuel too? $1 Trillion? $3 Trillion? More?

    What is rational about not finding out what they might be worth going for and where at least before going there?
    I did not mean that we should jump onboard and head for Mars next year. Robots are undergoing a great deal of real development right now. Maybe we'll send a semi-AI to explore first. We have a rover up there right now looking around. Equipment might have to be sent ahead and constructed by automatons.

    I admit to punting on the wealth of Mars. There could be a underground civilization. There could be relics from earlier space-farers, there could be Cat Cafes with really big cats. There could be rare minerals. You can't know until you go.

    Maybe in time we won't need so much fuel. Maybe batteries will run space flight. My personal budget is 17 trillion dollars for this project. I don't know where I came up with that number but t sounds like an amount you could borrow. Money is just paper and digits.

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    Re: One way trip to Mars

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    But. How could we come near to that ability? Wouldn't it require something? Like experimentation? You know? Attempts at pushing said technologies forward? We make new discoveries every day. Why not try a few out?
    Who is going to do this experimentation?

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    Re: One way trip to Mars

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    Wish I could. Correct me if I am wrong...didnt he pretty much cancel investments into programs we had running for years?
    Exactly, that was my point.

    He killed the space program so exploring space is pretty much off the table.

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    Re: One way trip to Mars

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Honestly Mason, I don't know where the air comes from on the Space Station or the Moon Rockets but I assume there is some way to break down other elements to produce air and water. If not, nobody will be going anywhere. It is reasonable to assume that some provision must be made for this. You're not going to Mars in the family Buick. It will require parts to be sent in advance. It will be difficult and expensive.

    Think about the first cables they placed across the Atlantic for the early days of telegrams. What a challenge that was in an era with far less development. They had to invent wire. They had to invent a way to make stuff travel across that wire. Today, we speak., 0s and 1s take this and bring it to another phone around the world. How impossible that must have seemed once.

    And you may be right. We may never do this. We may stay here until the sun goes dark. But there are a few people who think this is something to be challenged. I support them and believe in them.
    The OP was would you sign up for a one way trip to mars in a couple of years.

    How can you argue that a person is not stupid to sign up for a suicide trip like that?

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    Re: One way trip to Mars

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    The OP was would you sign up for a one way trip to mars in a couple of years.

    How can you argue that a person is not stupid to sign up for a suicide trip like that?
    I'm not the OP. I'm not stupid.

    This is a philosophical discussion. I promise not to actually leave for Mars unless I'm properly equipped. Honestly, I'm not going to go although it sounds like fun and something I might have done 50 years ago.

    This thread is a welcome relief from the all-day, all-night Obama bashing / Obama praising on this board. I thought we were here to have fun and present points of view. If you are taking this seriously, I suppose I must seem stupid to you so I withdraw my request for you to reconsider what seems to be rudeness for no actual purpose.

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    Re: One way trip to Mars

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    You are really trying to compare the moon and mars?

    Didn't your OP say it was a one way trip?

    That would mean the first people going there would have to build living quarters with no resources and no air.

    I think that is the definition of stupid.
    So what you are saying is that you have no clue what you are talking about?

    Will the astronauts have enough water, food and oxygen? - Mars One

    "Will the astronauts have enough water, food and oxygen?
    Our astronauts will be settling on Mars indefinitely. It's not feasible to send water, oxygen and food from Earth to the astronauts: they will produce those on Mars.

    ...On Mars, water can be extracted from the soil..............Oxygen can be produced by splitting water into its constituent parts, hydrogen and oxygen....................When the astronauts land, there will be limited rations of food available for them to use. Food from Earth will only serve as emergency rations, the astronauts will eat fresh food that they produce on Mars."


    People have actually gave this great thought (unlike you) read the FAQ instead of making a thousand posts showing that you never even bothered to learn about it. FAQ - Mars One

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    Re: One way trip to Mars

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    I'm not the OP. I'm not stupid.

    This is a philosophical discussion. I promise not to actually leave for Mars unless I'm properly equipped. Honestly, I'm not going to go although it sounds like fun and something I might have done 50 years ago.

    This thread is a welcome relief from the all-day, all-night Obama bashing / Obama praising on this board.
    I thought we were here to have fun and present points of view
    . If you are taking this seriously, I suppose I must seem stupid to you so I withdraw my request for you to reconsider what seems to be rudeness for no actual purpose.



    That's what I thought also.

    Some people look at everything from a dollars and cents perspective.

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    Re: One way trip to Mars

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    If I wasn't such an old fart, I would be raring to go. This is something I have always dreamed about.
    I'm a land lubber myself.

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    Re: One way trip to Mars

    I personally would never sign up for Mars . The thought of going in a airplane gets me nervous and the thought of going 24000 mph straight up into and out of the atmosphere makes me feel panicky .
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