View Poll Results: Should Cloning and genetic manipulation of humans be outlawed?

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  • Yes, no exceptions allowed

    2 16.67%
  • Yes, except to correct a known birth defect of genetic disease flaw

    3 25.00%
  • No, allowed for science but not allowed to become a living human

    1 8.33%
  • No, that would up to the woman/parents

    3 25.00%
  • Maybe, depends upon why

    3 25.00%
  • Help us all if they cloned me

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    Cloning and genetic manipulation of humans?

    This article again raises serious ethical questions about human cloning and manipulating human genetics - generally or on an individual level. The articles suggests someone to use cloning to make a Neanderthal. Neanderthals: Smarter than us?

    Since it is claimed that "Neanderthal" genetics is found in many humans, in theory this could be isolated and selective bits from different people to make Neanderthal dna, and the use that for test manipulating a human egg, then to be put into a woman. (Not discussed to that degree in the article. )

    Should genetic manipulation - except possibly to correct birth defects - be made illegal? Should a wanna-be parent(s) be able to "create" the genetics of a child they want via genetic manipulation? What if the person was a "freak" deliberately.

    I think genetically manipulated and altering human dna - individually on a personal level (except to address a genetic flaw) should be outlawed entirely - and that science certainly should be banned from doing so.

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    Re: Cloning and genetic manipulation of humans?

    From article:

    The Neanderthal brain was larger than man’s, although it was believed that large parts were devoted to vision and simple function, producing different thought processes. But recent discoveries have led to a new debate on the species’ capacity and even efforts to clone one for public interest purposes, This has had the support from Harvard genetics professor George Church, who claimed that “Neanderthals think differently than we do. They could even be more intelligent than us.”

    Comment, if not considered "human," could they then be pets? Slaves? Considered "livestock?" Scary stuff.

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    Re: Cloning and genetic manipulation of humans?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    This article again raises serious ethical questions about human cloning and manipulating human genetics - generally or on an individual level. The articles suggests someone to use cloning to make a Neanderthal. Neanderthals: Smarter than us?

    Since it is claimed that "Neanderthal" genetics is found in many humans, in theory this could be isolated and selective bits from different people to make Neanderthal dna, and the use that for test manipulating a human egg, then to be put into a woman. (Not discussed to that degree in the article. )

    Should genetic manipulation - except possibly to correct birth defects - be made illegal? Should a wanna-be parent(s) be able to "create" the genetics of a child they want via genetic manipulation? What if the person was a "freak" deliberately.

    I think genetically manipulated and altering human dna - individually on a personal level (except to address a genetic flaw) should be outlawed entirely - and that science certainly should be banned from doing so.

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    With respect, I feel just the opposite. I would like to outlaw "natural childbirth" unless a permit was issued and both partners were tested for sound genetics. Those who failed the test could still buy a permit for a cloned, high quality baby.

    We could use more Einsteins and fewer morons. Plus, the $5K permit fee would start of the mandatory education account.

    I'm well aware most don't agree. All I can say is look at the mess we have now, the criminals, the endless mentally ill and physically disabled we have to support.

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    Re: Cloning and genetic manipulation of humans?

    Personally, I think the ability to compare the reasoning processes of a living modern human and living Neanderthal (who is just as "human" as we are) would be invaluable to the development of the science of psychology.

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    Re: Cloning and genetic manipulation of humans?

    As long as we don't start mixing animal and human DNA too willy-nilly, or breeding up Sauron Supermen or an army of clones, it doesn't bother me much.


    So yeah, do it... just apply a little common sense and a smidge of restraint...

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    Re: Cloning and genetic manipulation of humans?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    This article again raises serious ethical questions about human cloning and manipulating human genetics - generally or on an individual level. The articles suggests someone to use cloning to make a Neanderthal. Neanderthals: Smarter than us?

    Since it is claimed that "Neanderthal" genetics is found in many humans, in theory this could be isolated and selective bits from different people to make Neanderthal dna, and the use that for test manipulating a human egg, then to be put into a woman. (Not discussed to that degree in the article. )

    Should genetic manipulation - except possibly to correct birth defects - be made illegal? Should a wanna-be parent(s) be able to "create" the genetics of a child they want via genetic manipulation? What if the person was a "freak" deliberately.

    I think genetically manipulated and altering human dna - individually on a personal level (except to address a genetic flaw) should be outlawed entirely - and that science certainly should be banned from doing so.

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    Why is here no option for 'full steam ahead'?

    All of the poll options are a variation on not allowing it except in some cases. I would have voted to increase funding and research, with no boundaries. Science is the most important human field of research by any reckoning.

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    Re: Cloning and genetic manipulation of humans?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    This article again raises serious ethical questions about human cloning and manipulating human genetics - generally or on an individual level. The articles suggests someone to use cloning to make a Neanderthal. Neanderthals: Smarter than us?

    Since it is claimed that "Neanderthal" genetics is found in many humans, in theory this could be isolated and selective bits from different people to make Neanderthal dna, and the use that for test manipulating a human egg, then to be put into a woman. (Not discussed to that degree in the article. )

    Should genetic manipulation - except possibly to correct birth defects - be made illegal? Should a wanna-be parent(s) be able to "create" the genetics of a child they want via genetic manipulation? What if the person was a "freak" deliberately.

    I think genetically manipulated and altering human dna - individually on a personal level (except to address a genetic flaw) should be outlawed entirely - and that science certainly should be banned from doing so.

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    Genetic engineering, therapeutic cloning, and the like are tools in our arsenal for taking control of our biology and transcend the flaws and limits nature imposed on us. It is one of the most rapidly advancing and exhilarating scientific fields in the world today. There is nothing inherently good about something being 'natural' bring on the transhuman please. Aside from cloning a human without respecting its human rights I vote no, no, no.

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    Re: Cloning and genetic manipulation of humans?

    I think it should be outlawed.I do not believe there should be any exceptions. Because a child's DNA should not be manipulated on the whims of the parents or their sense of beauty and other **** forced onto the child. If you allow exception for known birth defects then those exceptions will get redefined and then having freckles, brown eyes, red hair or something else becomes a "birth defect". Plus I would be worried about the long term effects human genetic manipulation can have on the overall population.
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    Re: Cloning and genetic manipulation of humans?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I think it should be outlawed.I do not believe there should be any exceptions. Because a child's DNA should not be manipulated on the whims of the parents or their sense of beauty and other **** forced onto the child. If you allow exception for known birth defects then those exceptions will get redefined and then having freckles, brown eyes, red hair or something else becomes a "birth defect". Plus I would be worried about the long term effects human genetic manipulation can have on the overall population.
    Why not? I don't mind at all if parents want to design their children so long as they don't do it to the detriment of their health.

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