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In the second pic, I think the PM is talking to the man behind Michelle.
I think you're right.
In the second pic, I think the PM is talking to the man behind Michelle.
A second in time while the crowd was singing and dancing and laughing and celebrating he posed with another PM. The photographer that took the snap said moments before Michelle had been engaged and in the moment of lightness ... Obama went along with another head of states request.I thought this was rude, childish and egotistical behavior. Yucking it up and taking selfies as speeches were being made about the man people came to honor at his memorial. Is this spoiled child really our president? Even Michelle looks disgusted. God help us.
It was a long event, do you know at what point in the event this was taken?
Even ignoring that important context, which you did without hesitation, BTW, it's just a picture with two heads of state, it's no big deal.
A second in time while the crowd was singing and dancing and laughing and celebrating he posed with another PM. The photographer that took the snap said moments before Michelle had been engaged and in the moment of lightness ... Obama went along with another head of states request.
So much amazing and historic significance of that day and this is the best infotainment can come up with ... pathetic.
8 Photos You Didn't See From Obama's Trip to South Africa - PolicyMic
It’s almost as if photographers go out of their way to present isolated images of political figures ...
In the second pic, I think the woman is talking to the man behind Michelle.
I entirely supported President Obama, but this?! OH HELL NO!! What he did ENTIRELY CROSSES EVERY LINE. Why articles of impeachment haven't been begun yet is puzzling.
But Michelle IS insanely jealous.
that's Eric Holder, I believe
Obviously it's a big deal to a lot of people. 281 posts in this thread. With all the problems we have as a country, I guess this is a BIG deal. :roll:
Eh Miley Cyrus is on vacation yanno...
Well that's an entirely different thing. There are PLENTY of things to complain about regarding Obama. I don't think this is one of them. This is just stupid really IMO.
Inappropriate. But also not HIS selfie. It was hers. She probably wanted a picture with the President of the United States and Prime Minister of Great Britain. If she asked, the polite thing to do is to quickly, neatly, take the picture and then refocus on what is going on with the actual funeral.
If I was going to talk about egotistical behavior, I would point out that Obama's speech mentioned himself 14 times, and Mandela only 8 times, before I complained about this.
You said "I" three times in two sentences. How many times would you say it in a paragraph based on that average?
That depends. Am I discussing my position (as I did above) in that paragraph, or is the paragraph supposed to be about Nelson Mandela at his funeral?
Inappropriate. But also not HIS selfie. It was hers. She probably wanted a picture with the President of the United States and Prime Minister of Great Britain. If she asked, the polite thing to do is to quickly, neatly, take the picture and then refocus on what is going on with the actual funeral.
If I was going to talk about egotistical behavior, I would point out that Obama's speech mentioned himself 14 times, and Mandela only 8 times, before I complained about this.
So it is all about you?
There's nothing wrong (or partisan) about the BI article. The AP is pissed off at the White House for freezing out photojournalists; it's been going on for awhile, and the press has been trying to call the White House on it for awhile.All fine points, except BI is a CT caliber blog.
There's nothing wrong (or partisan) about the BI article.
Then apparently you didn't actually hear (or read) the speech.If I was going to talk about egotistical behavior, I would point out that Obama's speech mentioned himself 14 times, and Mandela only 8 times, before I complained about this.
Dude, there's a dozen sources for this, from all across the political spectrum.Just like sometimes there's (supposedly) nothing wrong about PressTV articles. It's still an unreliable and, frankly, embarrassing source. It weakened your argument.
So no, there's nothing wrong with citing Business Insider (or the NY Times or Fox news) on this issue.
Then apparently you didn't actually hear (or read) the speech.
Here's a transcript: Nelson Mandela memorial service: Transcript of President Barack Obama's speech - NY Daily News
Almost all of it is talking about and praising Mandela. The only part where Obama talks about himself is to say that Mandela was an inspiration, and that he benefitted from Mandela's struggles. Characterizing that speech as though it was the rantings of an egomaniac is patently ridiculous.
You're "pointing it out" based on a deeply flawed grammatical analysis. Obama wasn't talking about himself, except to the extent that he was inspired by Mandela -- and that was a very small part of the speech. Accusing Obama of being "egotistical" because of that speech makes no sense.Rantings? I never claimed such - I simply point out that it is a better example of egotistical behavior than the picture in the OP.
The overwhelming majority of Obama's speech was talking about Mandela. Obama was not praising himself, he did not spend the entire speech talking about himself -- as you suggested with your bizarre analysis based not on the content of the speech, but on counting pronouns.However, as to the Speech - you are correct, the vast majority of it is simply what you should say.
But I'm sorry, but yes, it's very clear that you're determined to find fault in the most trivial of matters. Obama mentioned inequality in one line of a eulogy, for a leader of a nation with one of the highest rates of income inequality in the world. Was it "egotistical" of Obama to say that "we, too must act on behalf of justice" ? Or "we will never see the likes of Mandela again" ? Or "I will always fall short of Madiba's example" ?But I'm sorry, but no. Nelson Mandela leading South Africa through Reconciliation is not on the same historical trendline as your decision to pivot to talking about income inequality.
But I'm sorry, but yes, it's very clear that you're determined to find fault in the most trivial of matters.