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    What Should Newt Take Away from his Backlash?

    Gingrich answers Mandela critics - POLITICO.com

    Newt Gingrich on Sunday addressed the backlash over comments he made on Facebook praising former South African President Nelson Mandela.

    Gingrich said he was "very surprised" by reactions. And in response to the uproar, he wrote his Friday newsletter asking his followers what they would have done about Mandela's views and apartheid in South Africa.

    Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) faced similar backlash on comments he made lauding Mandela's life and career. When Crowley asked if the criticism of their comments comes from fellow conservatives, Gingrich said they are people who "bought a rationale that defined everybody who was in anyway in rebellion against the established system in the third world as anti-American."
    It should be clear that those who posted racist and vitriolic messages in response to Gingrich's statements are his followers, the people that read Gingrich's statements. While Newt expressed surprised at how his kind words could provoke such bile, he nonetheless shied away from the indisputable conclusion that these were the same people that usually cling to his every word.

    If you were Newt, who I remind you was a history professor, should you look on this as a teachable moment? Should you ask yourself why these of all people call themselves your fans? Should you ask what that says about you, your opinions, or at least your tone?

    Is it good enough to dismiss such people as the handful of bigots that invariably show up to conservative rallies and poison the atmosphere? Or should he ponder whether he is, in fact, on the right side of history on issues important to his followers, much as he implied that Reagan and Thatcher were when it came to Apartheid?
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    Re: What Should Newt Take Away from his Backlash?

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    Gingrich answers Mandela critics - POLITICO.com



    It should be clear that those who posted racist and vitriolic messages in response to Gingrich's statements are his followers, the people that read Gingrich's statements. While Newt expressed surprised at how his kind words could provoke such bile, he nonetheless shied away from the indisputable conclusion that these were the same people that usually cling to his every word.

    If you were Newt, who I remind you was a history professor, should you look on this as a teachable moment? Should you ask yourself why these of all people call themselves your fans? Should you ask what that says about you, your opinions, or at least your tone?

    Is it good enough to dismiss such people as the handful of bigots that invariably show up to conservative rallies and poison the atmosphere? Or should he ponder whether he is, in fact, on the right side of history on issues important to his followers, much as he implied that Reagan and Thatcher were when it came to Apartheid?
    So many of the OP's posted remarks seem to be just made up baiting that it's virtually impossible to reasonably respond.

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    Re: What Should Newt Take Away from his Backlash?

    Are you so certain they cling to his every word? I see negative comments all the time on McCain's facebook updates.
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    Re: What Should Newt Take Away from his Backlash?

    This bait doesn't work for me Boris.

    happy fishing tho

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    Re: What Should Newt Take Away from his Backlash?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    So many of the OP's posted remarks seem to be just made up baiting that it's virtually impossible to reasonably respond.
    Have you even read any of his fans' statements? Please do, then you should be able to see what I'm talking about.

    https://www.facebook.com/newtgingric...l_comments=348

    Tracey Easley Payne: He hated America, Newt. Quit pandering to the blacks.

    Christopher Blanchard: I thought you were different Newt, but I guess you are just like the rest . . . care to respond to those of us that are in shock by your statement? I know you can't be a "bomb thrower", but to brown nose this guy like that is not right . .

    Eric Johnson: Come on Newt. He was a communist and a murder similar to our currant president. Are you too being baffled by the main stream media.

    Chad Garcia: You, along with all the Democrats and Republicans what's wrong with America's political system Newt.
    THIS GUY WAS A COMMUNIST. You're all so desperate for votes that you'd suck off Satan and say you're a Christian. All the while believing yourself.

    Eva Coke-Lehde: I have a serious question, pardon my ignorance. O'Reilly says he was a communist. How could he be a communist and bring freedom and democracy to South Africa?

    Mario Emmanuel Iacovantuono: Newt, I was rooting for you to win the primaries and become the next president; please tell me your joking!! Mandela was a commie murderer!!

    Joan Elzey: He was a communist who disliked white people. I don't know what he did for humanity.

    LaDonne Merritt: I have always admired you until now.

    Tim Jones: Standard PC response. Grow a pair, Newt...

    Tomm Knutson: Newt, you are a dangerous kind--thank you for this reminder of what you really are...a turn-coat, a Benedict Arnold, a fraud. Much learning has made you mad.
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    Re: What Should Newt Take Away from his Backlash?

    Gingrich is proof that dinosaurs aren't extinct.

    Who gives a **** about messages on his Facebook page? There are a trillion **** facebook and twitter messages posted anonymously every day. The only reason any media covered his is an opportunity to race-bait as it incessantly does. Gingrich was glad to get ANY publicity he can get.

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    Re: What Should Newt Take Away from his Backlash?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Are you so certain they cling to his every word? I see negative comments all the time on McCain's facebook updates.
    Well, maybe not after all, or else they would have known that he voted to override Reagan's veto of sanctions against Apartheid South Africa while in congress.
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    Re: What Should Newt Take Away from his Backlash?

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    Well, maybe not after all, or else they would have known that he voted to override Reagan's veto of sanctions against Apartheid South Africa while in congress.
    They wouldn't even know that, unless someone else brought it up for praise or for critique.
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    Re: What Should Newt Take Away from his Backlash?

    Unfortunately, I had to pick "Other" as a voting option.

    If there was an option that stated:

    There will always be bigots and a**holes who bring down the level of conversation on the right both sides of the aisle
    But since it points to only one side in a banal attempt at being partisan (because we all know there are NO haters, bigots or assholes on the left - amirite?? ) it wasn't a hard choice.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: What Should Newt Take Away from his Backlash?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Unfortunately, I had to pick "Other" as a voting option.

    If there was an option that stated:

    But since it points to only one side in a banal attempt at being partisan (because we all know there are NO haters, bigots or assholes on the left - amirite?? ) it wasn't a hard choice.
    I would have posted that, except... Newt's not on the left, and neither are his followers! Why pussyfoot around what's happening here? I don't see any examples of racists on the left posting celebratory posts about how great Nelson Mandela was for killing white people.
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