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Thread: Another question about race

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    Re: Another question about race

    For the record, ethnicity and race are not the same thing. Just wanted to make that clear.
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    Re: Another question about race

    To my way of thinking, unless you're able to hyphenate as follows: American-Veteran, you're really only a quasi-patriot at best and your rantings as to what is and isn't patriotic are merely noise.

    Now, don't get me wrong, I fully support your 1st Amendment right to make as much useless noise as you want, I've served to defend it, after all.

    Just don't expect me to take you seriously when you start talking patriotism, regardless of how seriously you may take yourself.
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    And the end of the fight is a tombstone white with the name of the late deceased,
    And the epitaph drear: “A Fool lies here who tried to hustle the East.”

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    Re: Another question about race

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    No, Jewish can be religious, it can be ethnic and it can be cultural. I knew someone whose Chinese father was Jewish. I know a bunch of Jewish atheists. It means several different things.
    Its still a religious distinction. A male/female can be of a country and have a religion but it does not show where the person has came from or their origin or their history or traditions , just like most other religions . You can change them at any time . Jewish Atheist contradicts itself .
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    Re: Another question about race

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    To my way of thinking, unless you're able to hyphenate as follows: American-Veteran, you're really only a quasi-patriot at best and your rantings as to what is and isn't patriotic are merely noise.

    Now, don't get me wrong, I fully support your 1st Amendment right to make as much useless noise as you want, I've served to defend it, after all.

    Just don't expect me to take you seriously when you start talking patriotism, regardless of how seriously you may take yourself.
    That is an interesting take on things, indeed. So patriotism, as defined by veteran status, is extremely low for females (2%) and the young males (14% of those below 40 years old), yet strongest in the elderly (80% of those 80-85 years old).

    In U.S., 24% of Men, 2% of Women Are Veterans
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    Re: Another question about race

    Quote Originally Posted by Un biased View Post
    Its still a religious distinction. A male/female can be of a country and have a religion but it does not show where the person has came from or their origin or their history or traditions , just like most other religions . You can change them at any time . Jewish Atheist contradicts itself .
    No it doesn't, someone can be culturally or ethnically Jewish and be an atheist at the same time. I'm sorry you don't comprehend the concepts involved.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Another question about race

    Quote Originally Posted by Un biased View Post
    As for yourself . It's as much as a ethnicity compared to other religions . I did not say it wasn't a ethnicity , since ethnicity is a very broad and general term . Its that after which point every religion would need to be considered a ethnicity .
    Such ignorance. Are you still in high school or something?

    Post diaspora Jewish communities kept to themselves for the most part, did not proselytize to gain converts,and dna studies have revealed the entire Jewish community to be very closely linked genetically.They are an ethicity in every sense of the word unlike various other religions which spread through various ethnicities by converts.

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    Re: Another question about race

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    That is an interesting take on things, indeed. So patriotism, as defined by veteran status, is extremely low for females (2%) and the young males (14% of those below 40 years old), yet strongest in the elderly (80% of those 80-85 years old).

    In U.S., 24% of Men, 2% of Women Are Veterans
    I'm not even a little bit surprised to hear that Americans were more truly patriotic is bygone days and that the number is decreasing in today's "I, Me, Mine" society.

    And understand that I'm not trying to fill a quota so even if it were shown that only 1% of some demographic were Veterans it wouldn't really sway me.
    “Now it is not good for the Christian’s health to hustle the Aryan brown,
    For the Christian riles, and the Aryan smiles and he weareth the Christian down;
    And the end of the fight is a tombstone white with the name of the late deceased,
    And the epitaph drear: “A Fool lies here who tried to hustle the East.”

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    Re: Another question about race

    Quote Originally Posted by Un biased View Post
    Its still a religious distinction. A male/female can be of a country and have a religion but it does not show where the person has came from or their origin or their history or traditions , just like most other religions . You can change them at any time . Jewish Atheist contradicts itself .
    There are a lot of Jews who might disagree with you.

    In my understanding a Jew can be:

    1. Someone with Hebrew ancestry, but no faith component to their lives. Google "Secular Jews."
    2. An adherent to the faith of Judaism who is also of Hebrew ancestry.
    3. A believer in Jesus Christ (Yeshua Ha-Mashiach) who is also of Hebrew ancestry. These Jews are by and large rejected by most other Jews of all stripes. Google "Messianic Jews."
    4. A convert of the faith of Judaism but is not of Hebrew ancestry such as Ruth in the Old Testament, the grandmother of King David.
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    Re: Another question about race

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    I'm not even a little bit surprised to hear that Americans were more truly patriotic is bygone days and that the number is decreasing in today's "I, Me, Mine" society.

    And understand that I'm not trying to fill a quota so even if it were shown that only 1% of some demographic were Veterans it wouldn't really sway me.

    Of course it would not; since you, by your own defintion, are in your own little patriots club.
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    Re: Another question about race

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Of course it would not; since you, by your own defintion, are in your own little patriots club.
    There ya go.

    Membership is open to just about anyone.

    Not my fault few choose to join.
    “Now it is not good for the Christian’s health to hustle the Aryan brown,
    For the Christian riles, and the Aryan smiles and he weareth the Christian down;
    And the end of the fight is a tombstone white with the name of the late deceased,
    And the epitaph drear: “A Fool lies here who tried to hustle the East.”

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