View Poll Results: Is it wrong to refer to themselves as any of the following?

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  • No, its fine to be refered to as listed

    18 56.25%
  • Yes, its wrong to be refered to as listed

    0 0%
  • No, I have neve expressed disapproval toward these designations

    6 18.75%
  • Yes, I have expressed disapproval toward these designations

    7 21.88%
  • No, I'm fine "-American" in these cases

    7 21.88%
  • Yes, its wrong to add "-American" in these cases

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Thread: Another question about race

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    Re: Another question about race

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    It might be a better term if this weren't a point of contention for me. Lincoln to me is the despotic example remade in a saintly guise that makes all sorts of government tyranny justifiable in many minds.

    Obviously Slavery was a great evil. Lincoln's war just had very little to do with abolishing it. That's why Slavery wasn't abolished in the Union until near the end of the war. Lincoln's generals certainly were often adamant in stating they weren't fighting to end Slavery. Many were patently, rabidly, racist. Lincoln gives us the principle that almost any government act, including massive warfare may be justified if attached public sentiment for procuring freedom for a selected group. ("Yes" to free the French for instance, but not to free the European Jews, or millions of burka clad women. "Yes" to free the Iraqis, but not to free the Nigerians.)

    I'd go on, and I have elsewhere, but it's not really germane to the thread topic.

    I use the term "War of Northern Aggression" as a personal protest against the fake history that victims of the public school system carry about in their heads. "War Between the States," might be correct, but it has less of an indictment about it. Besides, I don't expect to convince most people one way or another.
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    Re: Another question about race

    Quote Originally Posted by Amanda1858 View Post
    I bet you love "Gone With the Wind" don't you?
    I've only seen part of it.

    For many years it was considered the best move ever made by a lot of experts on the subject.

    I like the parts I remember though.
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    Re: Another question about race

    Quote Originally Posted by Un biased View Post
    I don't see the point its still not a indicator of origin . 1970 is when people would use the terms since it was politically correct at the time to refer to people as Blank Americans . I'm not one to speak about Germany since this is a thread about hyphenation in America ( This thread has been derailed enough already ).
    The politically correct hyphen-American move did start in the 1970's, I believe in 1976. President Carter jumped on the band wagon and told immigrants to hold on to their language, customs, culture and even not Americanizing their names.

    It became the agenda of the "New Left" who had just gained control of the Democrat Party that immigrants shouldn't assimilate into the American society. Diversity became the new rule. Divide America. The melting pot is racist, from now on it will become a boiling pot to further a political agenda.

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    Re: Another question about race

    What's wrong with being an American? Is it so unsatisfactory that you must be a Taiwanese-Mongolese-Tibetan-Peruvian-Jupiterian-Kryptonian-American? What's up with that? so far as I'm concerned, if you were born and raised in America, you're an American, period. You're not part Irish or German or whatever the ****. These cultures and heritages are worlds apart. How special do you need to feel?

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    Re: Another question about race

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    In case you're not aware, Israel has a Law of Return which grants citizenship to people who are ETHNICALLY JEWISH! All you seem to be able to talk about is religion and you refuse to acknowledge that the word "Jewish" has other meanings that have nothing to do with religion.

    I'm done trying to explain it to you.
    In Israel. I'm not speaking about other countries since this thread is about America's use of Hyphenated word's of being a Blank American and that being of Jewish descent does not indicate ones heritage or culture since it is a religion that varies like all religions . I have said about 2 times already I never said Judaism or being Jewish is not a ethnicity . Jew - Jewish all come from Judaism which is a religion in no way have you used actual examples of the word without it being tied in with the religion in some way . You have explained nothing but gone around in circles citing things that have to do with nothing that I post . I have put more into my post but you don't even acknowledge at least I make a post to explain my view point while you do not .
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    Re: Another question about race

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    The politically correct hyphen-American move did start in the 1970's, I believe in 1976. President Carter jumped on the band wagon and told immigrants to hold on to their language, customs, culture and even not Americanizing their names.

    It became the agenda of the "New Left" who had just gained control of the Democrat Party that immigrants shouldn't assimilate into the American society. Diversity became the new rule. Divide America. The melting pot is racist, from now on it will become a boiling pot to further a political agenda.
    I meant in the 1970 era ( sorry for the misunderstanding in my post)
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    Re: Another question about race

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Haha. Cute.

    Curious: What specific instances do you think John Wayne was talking about when he said "a hyphen" has fanned the flames of hatred faster than a swastika?

    Also what information is he basing his assertion than when people say "Irish-American" and what not, they're saying they are divided Americans?

    Maybe I'm making too much of it. Poetic license. It does seem to be based solely on his on opinions and perceptions that have little to do with anything factual nor the motive of the people he made assertions about.
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    Re: Another question about race

    Quote Originally Posted by Un biased View Post
    I meant in the 1970 era ( sorry for the misunderstanding in my post)
    There was no misunderstanding, the 1970's covers 1976.

    Actually the PC hyphenated-American agenda may have started a few years earlier but it was President Carter who jumped aboard with telling America that one no longer should assimilate into the American society.

    In my life time I have watched some non black, white beard scratching liberal keep changing what black Americans should be referred to. It went from Negro, colored, black, Afro-American, African-American. Never just American. I finally said screw it, why can't the left make up their minds ? So today I use black American without the hyphen.

    And I know more than a few black Americans who also came to the same conclusion.

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    Re: Another question about race

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    And where the hell did I ever imply that, dude?

    Persecution complex, have we?
    You may not have, but its the standard now. This is the purpose of PC-to silence opposition by the threat of characterizing them as racist, sexist, etc.

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    Re: Another question about race

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Do you there anything unpatriotic, divisive or otherwise wrong for Americans to refer to themselves as any of the following with respect to ethic heritage?

    - Italian
    - Indian
    - Chinese
    - Irish
    - Jewish
    - German
    - Arab

    If you do consider it unpatriotic, divisive or otherwise wrong; have you ever in your life expressed disapproval of the specific references listed?

    To clear up any confusion that ethnicity is being discussed and not nationality of which the person is a patriotic citizen of America; is it unpatriotic, divisive or otherwise wrong for Americans to add "-American" in that reference?

    I see nothing wrong with it but I believe we all should be addressed as Americans.
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