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We have a "rogue" government who are the REAL terrorists


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In all fairness this isn't exactly new. Many presidents have signed this same type of order during their presidencies. Bush did, Clinton did and others since the 50's. While the act is an abuse of power, and seemingly goes against the founding principles of this country, it would be foolish to assume this is a Barack Obama thing. This is part of the United States government. The government that majority of Americans love.
 
Obama, and all members of congress have broken their oaths and committed treason, yet NOTHING is done about it.

Tell me something (I know I might regret this) - how many presidents and congress critters going how far back have been guilty of treason and broken oaths?
 
I think it is the second one. We just don't care about ourselves, our family or our future generations. We are naughty heads. We need hard spankings on the bottom.

You live in castle Anthrax?

spank for yourself dude
 
I quoted the contents of executive orders and bills like the NDAA that Obama signed.

Obama isn't the first president. No, I can't prove that but I do believe there were others before him.
 
Sometimes bad governance is just that, bad governance. Still, people are pretty wired to conceive up stories of treachery in their heads these days.

I guess we have watched too many movies over the years and have a hankering for some excitement.
 
I will do everything in my power to make sure Obama isn't re-elected!
 
:shock: You've got my attention. How do we stop this?

Well, the founding fathers did a great job setting up a system with mechanisms in place that the people could always use to prevent this from ever happening. It was called checks and balances. I'm sure that in their wildest imagination, they could never have foreseen a public so dumb, and so complacent that they would neglect to use these checks and balances, and just stand by while everything is slowly taken away over a 10 to 12 year period - everything given to us by the blood of our ancestors could only be taken away through a long campaign of mass manipulation, which, itself has but one requirement if it is to be successful: a gullible, malleable, pliable, easily distracted public.

What needed to be done was to recall members of congress at the first sign of selling us out, trampling the constitution and breaking oath. Obama has been impeachable for a very long time now for his violations of the constitution, and the two corrupt federal judges who overturned on appeal Judge Katherine Forrest's permanent injunction on section 1021 of the NDAA, should have been tried for treason, or at the very least unseated. None of this was ever done, however, because the MSM did their job so well with media blackouts on these issues that should have been critically at the forefront. They also did a great job of branding the few who were unduped - as "crazy conspiracy theorists".

Is it too late? Likely. If the people move to repeal EO 13603 and begin impeachment, the government will just drop the hammer, which they plan to do soon(er than you think) anyway. Besides, there are still way too many people who don't believe it and think it's all a big joke. The following article sums it up well.

The Sides Are Forming For The Coming Civil War | TheSleuthJournal

Here is an excerpt from that link:

The NDAA will allow the administration the “legal” right to secretly remove any burgeoning leadership of citizen opposition forces. The second provision which will allow this country to quickly transition to martial law is Executive Order (EO) 13603 which allows the President to take control over any resource, property and even human labor within the United States. This EO gives the President unlimited authority including the ability to initiate a civilian draft as well as a military draft. In short, this spells the potential enslavement of the American people. For those of you who still have your blinders on, research the NDAA and EO 13603 and then when you realize that I am correct in my interpretation, ask yourself one question; If the powers that be were not going to seize every important asset, then why would the government give itself the power to do just that? And while you are at it, remember the Clean Water Act gives the EPA the control of all private property as well as the precious resources of all water. And then of course, the FDA and the conflicts with local farmers is escalating. And if this is not enough to convince the sheep of this country that the storm clouds are overhead, then take a look at HR 347 which outlaws protesting and takes away the First Amendment. This unconstitutional legislation makes it illegal to criticize the President and the government, as a whole, in the presence of Federal officials. I have news for you, there are Federal officials in every town, city and county in America. If one violates HR 347, they will be immediately arrested and charged with a felony.
 
Tell me something (I know I might regret this) - how many presidents and congress critters going how far back have been guilty of treason and broken oaths?

Combined with all government agencies arming themselves to the gills with rounds of hollow points (that they lie blatantly saying they are for target practice), the weeding out of military who won't fire on Americans, the pouring in of Russian and Chinese troops training on American soil, and the DHS purchasing (with OUR money) thousands of armored assault vehicles that are now at the ready to be used here? I'd say this is a first. Wake the fk up!
 
Hannity: Obama Can ‘Declare Martial Law’ in Peacetime!

Due to the fact that so many here appear completely unaware that they have laughed themselves out of freedom, due process, and a government with checks and balances, I challenge anybody to refute any of the information from the above link. While you people laughed at "conspiracy theorists" who paid close attention to executive orders and bills such as the NDAA that were quietly signed with little to no media attention, the legal framework for totalitarian dictatorship was passed into law.

Okay.
What with the giant incinerators, fat jewy fingers and dancing Mossad agents, you have finally gotten through to me.
So, I went to the conservativeactionalerts site and I found out the article was from June 2012.
Why didn't the prez make himself dictator before last year's messy election?
Why risk an election when he could have just enacted martial law?
I also liked the part where Obama was planning an IMMINENT attack on Iran.
What happened?
Oh yeah, I'll bet the vigilance of the "conspiracy theorists" foiled the Iran/martial law plot.
 
Combined with all government agencies arming themselves to the gills with rounds of hollow points (that they lie blatantly saying they are for target practice), the weeding out of military who won't fire on Americans, the pouring in of Russian and Chinese troops training on American soil, and the DHS purchasing (with OUR money) thousands of armored assault vehicles that are now at the ready to be used here? I'd say this is a first. Wake the fk up!

Now see...if you'd have said that just about everybody ever elected in the last few decades has some degree of guilt, and that there are many over the last ten years specifically who are extremely guilty, I might have paid more attention.

As it is....

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Is it just my imagination, or have the habitual denizens of the lunatic conspiracy forum been escaping its confines in increasing numbers lately?
 
Hannity: Obama Can ‘Declare Martial Law’ in Peacetime!

Due to the fact that so many here appear completely unaware that they have laughed themselves out of freedom, due process, and a government with checks and balances, I challenge anybody to refute any of the information from the above link. While you people laughed at "conspiracy theorists" who paid close attention to executive orders and bills such as the NDAA that were quietly signed with little to no media attention, the legal framework for totalitarian dictatorship was passed into law.

I suspect people don't believe it because they haven't read all the documents, and they haven't seen the implementation of it. Of course, they also completely ignore things like the DHS and every other agency arming itself to the teeth, and Obama firing 11 military generals in one day (apparently weeding out the patriots), false flag operations in Boston, Colorado, and Connecticut (all attempts to try to get Americans to demand gun confiscation and abolishment of the 2nd amendment).

Obama, and all members of congress have broken their oaths and committed treason, yet NOTHING is done about it. You're either unaware or you just don't care about you, your family, and future generations. If you don't believe it, you can read it all and see that it's there in black and white (you can link to the actual documents from the above link).

I urge you to accept my challenge and disprove any statement from the above link. Please don't dismiss it just because you can walk outside right now and see a bunch of "freedom" going on. They're no doubt making final preparations and deciding on an "event" to use as a hammer-dropper. If Americans were smart, there would be indictments and recalls, and impeachment. More likely, they're going to sit idle until the NWO has everything in place. It's very near that point, and then it's too late.

Wrong way to go about it. The burden of proof is yours. Convince me.
 
Just imagine. My local county Republican Party is full of people like this. People like sKITzo are running the Republican Party right now. They say ridiculous nonsense like this and demand to be taken seriously. I suppose they'll learn a little bit about the real world and silently disappear. Once these nut jobs get out of the party we can become strong again. All it takes is a little exposure to reality and these f***ers will shut up.

Obama isn't the anti-Christ. Obama isn't a member of the Taliban. Obama isn't the worst president ever. Obama isn't going to take your guns while you are sleeping. Obama isn't going to force anybody to spell their name backwards. Just because your party loses the presidential election doesn't mean the world will be destroyed. This is completely irrational yet so mainstream. It's very obnoxious.


Yeah, but they are fun to watch. They don't embarrass easily, hey?
 
Is it just my imagination, or have the habitual denizens of the lunatic conspiracy forum been escaping its confines in increasing numbers lately?

I don't think your imagination is that vivid....is it? :D
 
Those who checked FALSE in the poll - if you are going to go with the answer that is not supported by any of the documentation and facts, you need to provide a little reasoning for your answer if you don't want to just look really dumb, as those who make wise-ass comments while failing to meet my challenge.

Here is some logic.

Let's say Obama will make us all into slaves. I can't stop it.
Let's say Obama will not make us us all into slaves. I can't stop that either.
Let's think of another oddball possibility. I can't stop that either.

There is no way to predict the future. The second best way to estimate the future is to base it upon the past. Historically every single president has been accused of overstepping his constitutional authority yet we have never become slaves or had our property seized by the government without just cause. We can take that data and assume that President Obama will overstep his constitutional authority but will fail to make us slaves and seize our property.

I will bet you $1,000 that this will never happen and I will collect the cash in February 2017. If Obama is still in office on February 2017 you will win the $1,000. Would you like to make that bet?

Of course not. Most people can't afford to lose $1,000 to make a point.
 
Quote Originally Posted by sKiTzo View Post


Obama, and all members of congress have broken their oaths and committed treason, yet NOTHING is done about it.
Tell me something (I know I might regret this) - how many presidents and congress critters going how far back have been guilty of treason and broken oaths?

This was a reply to post # 27


Nixon (sabotaged LBJ's Vietnam peace agreement), Reagan (sabotaged Carter's negotiations to free hostages), GHWBush (Iran/Contra 8 indictments and pardons), GWBush (AWOL or deserter?). Clinton lied about a blow job, Obama killed Qaddaffi.
 
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Hannity: Obama Can ‘Declare Martial Law’ in Peacetime!

Due to the fact that so many here appear completely unaware that they have laughed themselves out of freedom, due process, and a government with checks and balances, I challenge anybody to refute any of the information from the above link. While you people laughed at "conspiracy theorists" who paid close attention to executive orders and bills such as the NDAA that were quietly signed with little to no media attention, the legal framework for totalitarian dictatorship was passed into law.

I suspect people don't believe it because they haven't read all the documents, and they haven't seen the implementation of it. Of course, they also completely ignore things like the DHS and every other agency arming itself to the teeth, and Obama firing 11 military generals in one day (apparently weeding out the patriots), false flag operations in Boston, Colorado, and Connecticut (all attempts to try to get Americans to demand gun confiscation and abolishment of the 2nd amendment).

Obama, and all members of congress have broken their oaths and committed treason, yet NOTHING is done about it. You're either unaware or you just don't care about you, your family, and future generations. If you don't believe it, you can read it all and see that it's there in black and white (you can link to the actual documents from the above link).

I urge you to accept my challenge and disprove any statement from the above link. Please don't dismiss it just because you can walk outside right now and see a bunch of "freedom" going on. They're no doubt making final preparations and deciding on an "event" to use as a hammer-dropper. If Americans were smart, there would be indictments and recalls, and impeachment. More likely, they're going to sit idle until the NWO has everything in place. It's very near that point, and then it's too late.

We have always had a rogue government. Presidents who love to do things behind the scenes that the American people know nothing about. IKE overthrew Arbenz in Guatemala and installed the Shah in Iran amongst other things and you can go from there. I choose IKE because I was alive and old enough to remember him personally. Since Vietnam one side or the other will complain about the other side and all their secret activities and when their side gets in they do the same thing.
 
Here is some logic.

Let's say Obama will make us all into slaves. I can't stop it.
Let's say Obama will not make us us all into slaves. I can't stop that either.
Let's think of another oddball possibility. I can't stop that either.

There is no way to predict the future. The second best way to estimate the future is to base it upon the past. Historically every single president has been accused of overstepping his constitutional authority yet we have never become slaves or had our property seized by the government without just cause. We can take that data and assume that President Obama will overstep his constitutional authority but will fail to make us slaves and seize our property.

I will bet you $1,000 that this will never happen and I will collect the cash in February 2017. If Obama is still in office on February 2017 you will win the $1,000. Would you like to make that bet?

Of course not. Most people can't afford to lose $1,000 to make a point.

So you're saying the people should let a president pass executive orders that reserve the right for the federal government to seize everything, and force us to work for free during national emergencies and peacetime.....because you're positive they'll never do that? Think about what you just said. And no, no previous administration has ever been so confident as to throw in "during peacetime" for emergency provisions. They probably laughed and said "throw it in there, let's see how stupid they really are!"
 
snopes.com: Executive Order 13603 -- National Defense Resources Preparedness

Read the above link.

Not surprising.

But I'm sure it's a "conspiracy" isn't it?

Snopes is in on the "New Order" coming to the USofA. :lamo

From my linked source:

Not only is the reaction to this [Executive Order] wildly over the top in some corners, but the Executive Order itself is nothing more than a restatement of policy that has been in place in decades and grants no authority to the President or the Cabinet that they don't already have under existing law.
 
So you're saying the people should let a president pass executive orders that reserve the right for the federal government to seize everything, and force us to work for free during national emergencies and peacetime.....

No. You and your buddies should get their bb guns and go stop him. Brings some water balloons too just in case.
 
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