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    Re: Is this funny to you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Come, now, Dragonfly-- sanity is just SO yesterday.

    It is time to get with the program and realize that nothing in this world happens that doesn't involve shadowy groups of people conspiring against you. It is high time for you to realize that your life sucks, you are a worthless good for nothing in every sense of the word, and it is all on account of the Jews, and the new world order and the free masons and the neo cons and the socialists and the girl scouts. They are making your life a living Hell and if it weren't for all their conspiracies against you, who knows. You might even amount to something.

    It's just not fair!
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    Re: Is this funny to you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It is what it is. We've all investigated it. I've given a link elsewhere showing this kind of claim has been repeated often in history, even in 80's under Reagan, It's not intelligent, but more a mindless reaction to not liking a president or a specific direction. So the person cherry picks a few things, misrepresents it, and then goes all chicken little. It's not new.

    So, he agreed to support one, and I told him to pick one. I'm still waiting. You're free to pick up his burden if you dare.
    I don't remember the least hint of a partisan approach being given in the OP or after, actually.

    Well, lets see what we have here... lets just go with Executive Order -- National Defense Resources Preparedness | The White House Executive Order -- National Defense Resources Preparedness

    Are you comfortable with those NDERs... the National Defense Executive Reserve Units? They are not military, so presumably not subject to Posse Comitatus restrictions... so a paramilitary arm of the Executive branch... not liking that much, myself.

    Is this that scary thing BO was talking about all the way back in 2008 civilian national security force - YouTube

    I mean the left is always talking about the brown shirts, is this now them, perhaps? When has a president in the US needed his own private military unit?

    According to the order, In times of emergency and, more importantly, ...in times of no emergency... they can take total control of food resources, water supplies, energy resources, transportation, health, commerce... I mean the list is long...what exactly is that all about, do you think? What triggers this?

    We usually have these type laws come up after something just happened... or as we are preparing for something to happen... so what is going on, then?


    Plus, it gives no time limit as to how long this can be in place, has no congressional oversight ever mentioned... so they could go on indefinitely without anybody even knowing much of anything...

    You have no problems with any of that at all... its all just the normal course of business and we should just turn a blind eye to it, shirk our responsibilities to keep our eyes on our hired hands, make sure they are doing the right things...
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    Re: Is this funny to you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    If you think that executive order is hair raising, go through the 'emergency preparedness' EO's starting with President Kennedy.

    Executive Orders Disposition Tables Index
    It would be interesting to peruse this index but time constraints do not allow. I'd be willing to bet, however, that none of the earlier Eo's have the words "during peacetime"....

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    Re: Is this funny to you?

    Quote Originally Posted by sKiTzo View Post
    It would be interesting to peruse this index but time constraints do not allow. I'd be willing to bet, however, that none of the earlier Eo's have the words "during peacetime"....
    You might be surprised; besides, if you have enough time to post on an Internet message board then why don't you have time to research historical executive orders of the United States? But if that's truly the case, then that is why they call it a "to do" list.

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    Re: Is this funny to you?

    I'd say that we have a rouge Administration and Congressional leaders. I don't think that they're terrorists at this time.
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    Re: Is this funny to you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    I'd say that we have a rouge Administration and Congressional leaders. I don't think that they're terrorists at this time.
    Of course, they are not the terrorists themselves. They are the architects. Their modus operandi of manipulation is so old and over-used by now, that, it's become predictable. It's called "Problem>Reaction>Solution", and it's based on using fear to accomplish their goals. How many of us didn't know there would be a string of highly publicized shootings sparking calls for gun bans? I certainly did, and when the Batman theatre shootings occurred, it had their signature all over it, and I knew it was just the beginning.

    It's clear that the "agenda" is to delibertize America and the rest of the world to bring it all under the control of a totalitarian one-world government with everybody chipped with chips that replace currency. This is not a theory, and it's certainly no secret either. It was written in stone for all to see on the Georgia Guide Stones. They know that in order to fulfill this agenda, they have to disarm the people FTRST.

    Problem>reaction>solution has been routine protocol to these architects for a long time now. The "solution" is the specific goal they want to attain, and the "problem" is the tailored "event" that happens that will make people demand the "solution". Because we don't naturally have the kinds of problems required to induce the people to call for actions that will ultimately remove basic rights and liberties, they have to be created . Welcome to the world of false flag terrorism.

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    Re: Is this funny to you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    I don't remember the least hint of a partisan approach being given in the OP or after, actually.

    Well, lets see what we have here... lets just go with Executive Order -- National Defense Resources Preparedness | The White House Executive Order -- National Defense Resources Preparedness

    Are you comfortable with those NDERs... the National Defense Executive Reserve Units? They are not military, so presumably not subject to Posse Comitatus restrictions... so a paramilitary arm of the Executive branch... not liking that much, myself.

    Is this that scary thing BO was talking about all the way back in 2008 civilian national security force - YouTube

    I mean the left is always talking about the brown shirts, is this now them, perhaps? When has a president in the US needed his own private military unit?

    According to the order, In times of emergency and, more importantly, ...in times of no emergency... they can take total control of food resources, water supplies, energy resources, transportation, health, commerce... I mean the list is long...what exactly is that all about, do you think? What triggers this?

    We usually have these type laws come up after something just happened... or as we are preparing for something to happen... so what is going on, then?


    Plus, it gives no time limit as to how long this can be in place, has no congressional oversight ever mentioned... so they could go on indefinitely without anybody even knowing much of anything...

    You have no problems with any of that at all... its all just the normal course of business and we should just turn a blind eye to it, shirk our responsibilities to keep our eyes on our hired hands, make sure they are doing the right things...
    A: This false claim is a badly distorted version of Obama’s call for doubling the Peace Corps, creating volunteer networks and increasing the size of the Foreign Service.

    Obama’s ‘National Security Force?’

    A: No. Contrary to false Internet rumors, the new Ready Reserve Corps of doctors and other health workers will report to the surgeon general and be like the "ready reserves" in other uniformed services. They will be used during health emergencies.

    Obama’s “Private Army”

    See, you're facts are wrong. You've bough into nonsense, and somehow expect someone to treat it as if it reasonable. I don't how to do that. Inaccurate facts are simply inaccurate. There is no debate about that.

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    Re: Is this funny to you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    A: This false claim is a badly distorted version of Obama’s call for doubling the Peace Corps, creating volunteer networks and increasing the size of the Foreign Service.

    Obama’s ‘National Security Force?’

    A: No. Contrary to false Internet rumors, the new Ready Reserve Corps of doctors and other health workers will report to the surgeon general and be like the "ready reserves" in other uniformed services. They will be used during health emergencies.

    Obama’s “Private Army”

    See, you're facts are wrong. You've bough into nonsense, and somehow expect someone to treat it as if it reasonable. I don't how to do that. Inaccurate facts are simply inaccurate. There is no debate about that.
    Taking it directly from the EO, fellow citizen: Executive Order -- National Defense Resources Preparedness | The White House

    (b) The Secretary of Homeland Security shall issue necessary guidance for the NDER program, including appropriate guidance for establishment, recruitment, training, monitoring, and activation of NDER units and shall be responsible for the overall coordination of the NDER program. The authority of the President under section 710(e) of the Act, 50 U.S.C. App. 2160(e), to determine periods of national defense emergency is delegated to the Secretary of Homeland Security.

    (c) The head of any agency may implement section 501(a) of this order with respect to NDER operations in such agency.

    (d) The head of each agency with an NDER unit may exercise the authority under section 703 of the Act, 50 U.S.C. App. 2153, to employ civilian personnel when activating all or a part of its NDER unit. The exercise of this authority shall be subject to the provisions of sections 501(e) and (f) of this order and shall not be redelegated.

    (e) The head of an agency may activate an NDER unit, in whole or in part, upon the written determination of the Secretary of Homeland Security that an emergency affecting the national defense exists and that the activation of the unit is necessary to carry out the emergency program functions of the agency.


    So, from the order itself it contradicts what you say that is only doctors and other health workers who will report to the surgeon general. As it states, the head of any, ANY, of the agencies can activate units, etc...

    And you have them, in times of peace as well as in times of emergency, able to take over all food resources, all energy resources, all water resources, health, commerce, I mean the list goes on and on...

    Again, you do not address this either, there is no time limit for ending these operations set, no time limit for involvement of Congressional oversight...

    That second link has absolutely nothing to do with this EO, and the first link is tenuous at best. I don't trust the out of Chicago, Annenberg Foundation [FACTCHECK.ORG] which Obama was funded/worked for/with/under previously. Questionable at the very least. You are gonna have to do a little more of your homework there boo... you are scaring me...
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    Re: Is this funny to you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Taking it directly from the EO, fellow citizen: Executive Order -- National Defense Resources Preparedness | The White House

    (b) The Secretary of Homeland Security shall issue necessary guidance for the NDER program, including appropriate guidance for establishment, recruitment, training, monitoring, and activation of NDER units and shall be responsible for the overall coordination of the NDER program. The authority of the President under section 710(e) of the Act, 50 U.S.C. App. 2160(e), to determine periods of national defense emergency is delegated to the Secretary of Homeland Security.

    (c) The head of any agency may implement section 501(a) of this order with respect to NDER operations in such agency.

    (d) The head of each agency with an NDER unit may exercise the authority under section 703 of the Act, 50 U.S.C. App. 2153, to employ civilian personnel when activating all or a part of its NDER unit. The exercise of this authority shall be subject to the provisions of sections 501(e) and (f) of this order and shall not be redelegated.

    (e) The head of an agency may activate an NDER unit, in whole or in part, upon the written determination of the Secretary of Homeland Security that an emergency affecting the national defense exists and that the activation of the unit is necessary to carry out the emergency program functions of the agency.


    So, from the order itself it contradicts what you say that is only doctors and other health workers who will report to the surgeon general. As it states, the head of any, ANY, of the agencies can activate units, etc...

    And you have them, in times of peace as well as in times of emergency, able to take over all food resources, all energy resources, all water resources, health, commerce, I mean the list goes on and on...

    Again, you do not address this either, there is no time limit for ending these operations set, no time limit for involvement of Congressional oversight...

    That second link has absolutely nothing to do with this EO, and the first link is tenuous at best. I don't trust the out of Chicago, Annenberg Foundation [FACTCHECK.ORG] which Obama was funded/worked for/with/under previously. Questionable at the very least. You are gonna have to do a little more of your homework there boo... you are scaring me...
    Your interpretation is factually inaccurate. What you quote doesn't mean what you think it means. It doesn't specify anyone in that link. And people to help doctors and such would not meet your sky is falling interpretation. And we have for a fact not seen any Obama troopers do anything. It's sheer fiction on your part.

    I only took the first two entries, but you can find many many more.

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    Re: Is this funny to you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Your interpretation is factually inaccurate. What you quote doesn't mean what you think it means. It doesn't specify anyone in that link. And people to help doctors and such would not meet your sky is falling interpretation. And we have for a fact not seen any Obama troopers do anything. It's sheer fiction on your part.

    I only took the first two entries, but you can find many many more.
    Okay, I guess you can go back to sleep now.
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