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Is the film "Lord Of The Rings" racist?

Is the film "Lord Of The Rings" racist?

  • Yes

    Votes: 3 4.8%

  • No

    Votes: 51 81.0%

  • It's prophetic

    Votes: 2 3.2%

  • Idk

    Votes: 7 11.1%
  • Total voters
    63
Bodhisattva said:
I know. I didn't say that they were. I said that the High Men were the Dunedain.
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Sorry, the post you quoted in response to was about Gandalf being a man and I pointed out he wasn't.
 
Bodhisattva said:
I just read the LOTR's trilogy again a few weeks ago. I probably know way too much. I even read all the histories in the appendix and the family trees...
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I've read The Hobbit 11 times, and LotR 3 times, but all in the 1980s and 1990s. Haven't read them since, though I've been considering reading them again. It's been too long.



clownboy said:
The Silmarillion was full of who begat whom and a lot of history of Middle Earth and the vaious species and ages.
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I tried, but couldn't get into it. Except for a couple chapters, just way too dry.
 
ChrisL said:
Now are they all part of the same story, the Silmarillian, The Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings? I gather that the first one is just giving a background and theme, and The Hobbit perhaps introduces the characters? Then the Lord of the Rings is the actual adventures? Is that right?
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Yep. The Silmarillian sets it all up but in amazing detail. It outlines the Gods that created the world with music. Then those who chose to go into the world that became the Valar (worldly gods). It is kinda like a Bible. Morgoth fell out of favour due to greed and created the underworld of Balrogs. Shelob is another of these and of course Sauron is his right hand man. How the Elves were created with their "Doom" immortality. The creation later of the dwarves (by a Valar out of the rocks, or something) and men. Tens of thousands of years worth of history.
 
ChrisL said:
Now are they all part of the same story, the Silmarillian, The Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings? I gather that the first one is just giving a background and theme, and The Hobbit perhaps introduces the characters? Then the Lord of the Rings is the actual adventures? Is that right?
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Sort of, though the Hobbit was more of a lighter prequel to the Lord Of The Rings trilogy.
 
Bodhisattva said:
Yep. The Silmarillian sets it all up but in amazing detail. It outlines the Gods that created the world with music. Then those who chose to go into the world that became the Valar (worldly gods). It is kinda like a Bible. Morgoth fell out of favour due to greed and created the underworld of Balrogs. Shelob is another of these and of course Sauron is his right hand man. How the Elves were created with their "Doom" immortality. The creation later of the dwarves (by a Valar out of the rocks, or something) and men. Tens of thousands of years worth of history.
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You are just a Lord of the Rings geek huh? :lol: J/K!
 
Bodhisattva said:
Yep. The Silmarillian sets it all up but in amazing detail. It outlines the Gods that created the world with music. Then those who chose to go into the world that became the Valar (worldly gods). It is kinda like a Bible. Morgoth fell out of favour due to greed and created the underworld of Balrogs. Shelob is another of these and of course Sauron is his right hand man. How the Elves were created with their "Doom" immortality. The creation later of the dwarves (by a Valar out of the rocks, or something) and men. Tens of thousands of years worth of history.
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And Tom Bambadill sits sort of outside of all that and recalls the creation of Middle Earth. A delightful character full of joy.
 
radcen said:
I've read The Hobbit 11 times, and LotR 3 times, but all in the 1980s and 1990s. Haven't read them since, though I've been considering reading them again. It's been too long.
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Read the Hobbit 1 time and the LOTRs at least 10 times and the Silmarillian once.
 
clownboy said:
And Tom Bambadill sits sort of outside of all that and recalls the creation of Middle Earth. A delightful character full of joy.
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I wish they had included more of the Council of Elrond including the discussion about Tom.
 
clownboy said:
Sorry, the post you quoted in response to was about Gandalf being a man and I pointed out he wasn't.
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OK. Time to move on. ;)
 
Jack Hays said:
We all have our likes and dislikes. I thought the relay of the signal fire of Gondor was one of the great scenes of the film.:peace
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Being a woman, I liked Galadriel, the Elf Queen, and Arwen, daughter of the elf lord Elrond, women after my own heart! . When Arwen made the river rise and drowned Sauron's followers who were chasing Froto; and when Galadriel tested Froto by having him use the bowl of water to see the future by scrying, were two of the best scenes in the movie, IMO, and there were many. It's been a while since I saw the movies, so I guess I should rewatch them again soon! :thumbs:
 
KevinKohler said:
Um. It's based on a novel, set in a fantasy world called middle earth, in which there were no black people? Having read the books quite a few years ago, maybe my memory is rusty...but I can't recall mention of a single black person.
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In the original draft, there was a 10th member of the fellowship named Shaquille.
 
Kobie said:
In the original draft, there was a 10th member of the fellowship named Shaquille.
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He kept dunking Frodo... it made for too much mistrust.
 
polgara said:
Being a woman, I liked Galadriel, the Elf Queen, and Arwen, daughter of the elf lord Elrond, women after my own heart! . When Arwen made the river rise and drowned Sauron's followers who were chasing Froto; and when Galadriel tested Froto by having him use the bowl of water to see the future by scrying, were two of the best scenes in the movie, IMO, and there were many. It's been a while since I saw the movies, so I guess I should rewatch them again soon! :thumbs:
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Arwen rising the water was a good scene but in the novels it was Elrond who made the river rise from back in Rivendale and it was Gandalf that added the galloping horses look...
 
Bodhisattva said:
The original Balrog... forgot his name. Was a bad ass.
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He could win against a wizard? Gandolf was the wizard right? As you can see, I really have no idea what I'm talking about. :lol:
 
Bodhisattva said:
Arwen rising the water was a good scene but in the novels it was Elrond who made the river rise from back in Rivendale and it was Gandalf that added the galloping horses look...
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Hmmm. I thought in the book the key player at the river was an elf prince who never appears again.
 
ChrisL said:
Now are they all part of the same story, the Silmarillian, The Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings? I gather that the first one is just giving a background and theme, and The Hobbit perhaps introduces the characters? Then the Lord of the Rings is the actual adventures? Is that right?
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The three excellent fantasy adventure movies of The Lord of The Ring! The Fellowship of The Ring; The Two Towers; and The Return of The King. Well worth seeing! :thumbs:
 
No. It's relatively true to the books (as much as anyone could ever possibly expect anyway), and it just so happens that there aren't really non-white people in the books.

They were published 70 years ago by an elderly middle-upper class white guy. What do you expect?
 
ChrisL said:
He could win against a wizard? Gandolf was the wizard right? As you can see, I really have no idea what I'm talking about. :lol:
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It all depends... Gothmog was the Captain of the Balrogs and a bad ass.
 
polgara said:
The three excellent fantasy adventure movies of The Lord of The Ring! The Fellowship of The Ring; The Two Towers; and The Return of The King. Well worth seeing! :thumbs:
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Thanks polgara! I only saw the first, but I'll have to make sure and see the other two. :)
 
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