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    Re: Is the film "Lord Of The Rings" racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    You take me too seriously. I'm just having some fun. I really don't care that much about Lord of the Rings.
    I take this **** very seriously... J/K

    I love the books and the movies kinda sucked... that 's all. All good.
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    Re: Is the film "Lord Of The Rings" racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    What I said was that he screwed over the books, meaning that the movies are no where near as good. Changing who said what ruined the movies. Making Gimli a comic distraction in the movie ruined the movies. Taking out entire chapters ruined the movies. Making the battle of Helm's Deep 1/3 of the movie when it is 1/30 of the book ruined the movies. so yes... Adding a female character would ruin the movie.
    I have to disagree. Any time a novel becomes a movie there has to be compression. I thought they did reasonably well. A film is visual and Helm's Deep is visual. That's to be expected. In a film all those long discussions don't work. It's the old saying: "Don't tell me. Show me."
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    Re: Is the film "Lord Of The Rings" racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I take this **** very seriously... J/K

    I love the books and the movies kinda sucked... that 's all. All good.
    I read one or two because I had to for school, but I barely remember them. I saw the first movie and that's it.

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    Re: Is the film "Lord Of The Rings" racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    The Haradrim and Easterlings always seemed vaguely Arab or Turkish to me.
    Black to me, but I could see Arab or Turkish.
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    Re: Is the film "Lord Of The Rings" racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Well I've only read a few books that were turned into a show or movie - and I don't recall any race-swapping.

    What has happened are character-swapping. Where the story or events from one character are given to another when it's processed into a script.

    I prefer when they leave things the heck alone. But - Hobbits, Orcs, Dunedains, Elves, Maiar, and Dwarves don't exist in real life
    Oh, I don't know... I once worked for an Orc.
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    Re: Is the film "Lord Of The Rings" racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Black to me, but I could see Arab or Turkish.
    Everyone imagines a little differently. I always imagined the Rohirrim as Nordic Sioux or Cheyenne rather than the proto-knights they became in the film.
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    Re: Is the film "Lord Of The Rings" racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    I have to disagree. Any time a novel becomes a movie there has to be compression. I thought they did reasonably well. A film is visual and Helm's Deep is visual. That's to be expected. In a film all those long discussions don't work. It's the old saying: "Don't tell me. Show me."
    I agree to a point. When he omits tons of stuff and then makes up stuff that is what I don't like. Helm's Deep was so long. Didn't need to be. Could have shortened it and added other things instead. Making Pippen freak out with the Glass Ball thing (can't remember right now) that glowed was lame. Having Aragorn have this made up conversation with the dead king was lame. Having Pippen light the signal fire when that never happened was lame. Having the King of Rohan make that incredibly long and idiotic speech at Helm's Deep was lame. It is like King went out of his way to screw with the books.
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    Re: Is the film "Lord Of The Rings" racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I agree to a point. When he omits tons of stuff and then makes up stuff that is what I don't like. Helm's Deep was so long. Didn't need to be. Could have shortened it and added other things instead. Making Pippen freak out with the Glass Ball thing (can't remember right now) that glowed was lame. Having Aragorn have this made up conversation with the dead king was lame. Having Pippen light the signal fire when that never happened was lame. Having the King of Rohan make that incredibly long and idiotic speech at Helm's Deep was lame. It is like King went out of his way to screw with the books.
    We all have our likes and dislikes. I thought the relay of the signal fire of Gondor was one of the great scenes of the film.
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    Re: Is the film "Lord Of The Rings" racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    What I said was that he screwed over the books, meaning that the movies are no where near as good. Changing who said what ruined the movies. Making Gimli a comic distraction in the movie ruined the movies. Taking out entire chapters ruined the movies. Making the battle of Helm's Deep 1/3 of the movie when it is 1/30 of the book ruined the movies. so yes... Adding a female character would ruin the movie.
    They held to the books much closer to the books than I feared they would, and overall I was pleased. One of my primary annoyances, though, is that they treated Gimli as comic relief. That was unnecessary and uncalled for.

    Unfortunately, they became intoxicated with their success in LotR, and have completely bastardized The Hobbit to the point that I am "meh" about the remaining movies in that series.
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    Re: Is the film "Lord Of The Rings" racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He wasn't brown... he was Radagast "the Brown" and even when Gandalf was "the Grey" he was still a white man.
    Actually he wasn't a man. The wizards were a different species. Aragorn and his bunch were men.

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