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Is the film "Lord Of The Rings" racist?

Is the film "Lord Of The Rings" racist?

  • Yes

    Votes: 3 4.8%

  • No

    Votes: 51 81.0%

  • It's prophetic

    Votes: 2 3.2%

  • Idk

    Votes: 7 11.1%
  • Total voters
    63
Bodhisattva said:
Glorfindel ? He turns white with glowing power and battles them but the river was Elrond. As Gandalf explains it to Frodo when he wakes up that the realm of Rivendale is Elronds domaine and he did it but that Gandalf made the "nice touch" of adding the horses.
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The book doesn't say this, so it is my own interpretation, but I thought Glorfindel activated a spell of protection that Elrond had put in place for use in such times.
 
Cardinal said:
I disagree. I wish the movie had used the eight page description of the scratches on the back of a chair in one of the taverns. That really needed its own scene.
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Had they known the films would be as popular as they are, it would have been it's own movie.
 
Bodhisattva said:
Yep. The Silmarillian sets it all up but in amazing detail. It outlines the Gods that created the world with music. Then those who chose to go into the world that became the Valar (worldly gods). It is kinda like a Bible. Morgoth fell out of favour due to greed and created the underworld of Balrogs. Shelob is another of these and of course Sauron is his right hand man. How the Elves were created with their "Doom" immortality. The creation later of the dwarves (by a Valar out of the rocks, or something) and men. Tens of thousands of years worth of history.
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And a good escape from the hum-drummery of today! David Eddings writes the same type of fantasy books. I chose one of the characters in his books--Polgara-- as my avatar image...I really like his books. :thumbs:
 
When I first saw Elrond, I thought, "Mr Andersonnnnnnn" and 1000s of Elronds emerging from the woodwork. :mrgreen:
 
radcen said:
Had they known the films would be as popular as they are, it would have been it's own movie.
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Considering how much they took from The Histories of Middle Earth to pad The Hobbit, I think you're probably right.
 
radcen said:
When I first saw Elrond, I thought, "Mr Andersonnnnnnn" and 1000s of Elronds emerging from the woodwork. :mrgreen:
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It's actually kind of amazing that The Matrix didn't typecast Hugo Weaving and end his career right there.
 
Cardinal said:
Considering how much they took from The Histories of Middle Earth to pad The Hobbit, I think you're probably right.
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I accept creative license to a certain extent, but what they're doing to The Hobbit is not sitting well with me.
 
Gathomas88 said:
The last one, The Return of the King, was by far the best of the three.

I still get a bit misty eyed at the end, embarassed as I may be to admit it. :lol:
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:agree: Except that I've heard several people say they could have shortened the farewell by about half...people in the theatre were getting restless to move on! :mrgreen: Did you think it was too long?

Greetings, Gathomas88. :2wave:
 
Gathomas88 said:
Technically, Gothmog was captain of the Balrogs. I'm not sure if that makes things better or worse though. :lol:
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Lol! I already said I couldn't keep the names straight! :mrgreen:
 
Cardinal said:
For a demonstration of life in America before racial sensitivity was a thing, watch The Marx Brothers at the Circus.
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You don't even have to watch the Marx Brothers but why wouldn't anyone not want to watch the Marx Brothers ?

Black face is still popular in Mexico.
 
Cardinal said:
You don't have to view it through that prism if you don't want to, and I was perfectly able to enjoy the films before I learned that it was about industrialism myself. But like it or not, that really is what Tolkein intended it to represent.
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The great thing about art, no matter the media, is that it's meaning is up to the interpretation of the masses more that the artist. In most cases anyway.
Cardinal said:
Awesome explosions and one-liners.
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Meh, idk about awesome one-liners lol.
 
MarineTpartier said:
The great thing about art, no matter the media, is that it's meaning is up to the interpretation of the masses more that the artist. In most cases anyway.
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Agreed, great art can stand on its own and be open to the viewer's own interpretation. Bad art makes no damn sense if you don't know what the artist's intent was. In any case I enjoy knowing the intent -- it usually broadens my appreciation of the work.

MarineTpartier said:
Meh, idk about awesome one-liners lol.
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Give it time, maybe they'll get it right.

The Expendables 3 (2014) - IMDb
 
polgara said:
Greetings, Goshin. :2wave:

Haven't seen the Hobbit movies yet. You didn't like?
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Oh don't get me wrong, I DID like and I am very much looking forward to the next one coming out shortly.

There were some bits and pieces I could have done without, or thought could have been done better, but on the whole I was pleased... so far.


Still, it just isn't quite the five-star barn-burner that was LOTR.
 
Kobie said:
I loved that one too, except I was getting a little antsy by the sixth ending.
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polgara said:
:agree: Except that I've heard several people say they could have shortened the farewell by about half...people in the theatre were getting restless to move on! :mrgreen: Did you think it was too long?

Greetings, Gathomas88. :2wave:
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It definitely could've used some trimming down in a few places. I'm not going to lie.

Honestly though, after repeated viewings (of the extended editions no less), I don't really mind it as much as I did the first time. The rest of the movie (and trilogy) is good enough to warrant a bit of a "cooling down" period before it wraps up. Lol

Evening Polagra. :2wave:
 
clownboy said:
Bilbo made it to Rivendell and there were more than just male elves.
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There are three female characters mentioned in the book, those being, Belladonna Took, the mother of Fili and Kili which was never named, and the unnamed wife of Girion of Dale. All of these women only serve to provide connections between major characters in the story and their predecessors. As you should be aware none of these characters are actually in the story itself. Belladonna Took for example, was only mentioned to provide a backstory for Bilbos Hobbit hole. She is assumed dead when the story takes place.

There is no female elves mentioned when Bilbo was in Rivendell, be that on his adventure, or on the way back home.
 
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Gathomas88 said:
It definitely could've used some trimming down in a few places. I'm not going to lie.

Honestly though, after repeated viewings (of the extended editions no less), I don't really mind it as much as I did the first time. The rest of the movie (and trilogy) is good enough to warrant a bit of a "cooling down" period before it wraps up. Lol

Evening Polagra. :2wave:
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The word you're looking for is "epilogue". :)
 
Gathomas88 said:
It definitely could've used some trimming down in a few places. I'm not going to lie.

Honestly though, after repeated viewings (of the extended editions no less), I don't really mind it as much as I did the first time. The rest of the movie (and trilogy) is good enough to warrant a bit of a "cooling down" period before it wraps up. Lol

Evening Polagra. :2wave:
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As drawn out as the ending to ROTK was, it wasn't as bad as the ending(s) to A.I. I seriously started to stand up, thinking that movie was over, at least 3 times before it actually was.
 
Gathomas88 said:
It definitely could've used some trimming down in a few places. I'm not going to lie.

Honestly though, after repeated viewings (of the extended editions no less), I don't really mind it as much as I did the first time. The rest of the movie (and trilogy) is good enough to warrant a bit of a "cooling down" period before it wraps up. Lol

Evening Polagra. :2wave:
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:agree: :thumbs: They wouldn't have wanted to send people out of the threatre all wild eyed, would they? :lamo: I joined the rest of the threatregoers in cheering when Froto actually threw the evil ring in the volcanic lava! Whew, he finally finished his task after going through so much! :applaud
 
Kobie said:
As drawn out as the ending to ROTK was, it wasn't as bad as the ending(s) to A.I. I seriously started to stand up, thinking that movie was over, at least 3 times before it actually was.
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I don't think any movie committed that sin as many times as Magnolia
 
Henrin said:
There are three female characters mentioned in the book, those being, Belladonna Took, the mother of Fili and Kili which was never named, and the unnamed wife of Girion of Dale. All of these women only serve to provide connections between major characters in the story and their predecessors. As you should be aware none of these characters are actually in the story itself. Belladonna Took for example, was only mentioned to provide a backstory for Bilbos Hobbit hole. She is assumed dead when the story takes place.

There is no female elves mentioned when Bilbo was in Rivendell, be that on his adventure, or on the way back home.
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I'm glad they added the ones they did, even though they weren't in the book. And the choices that were made did fit right into the fantasy of the movie. Elf Queen was perfect to show Froto the future, IMO, since females are usually portrayed as being more into that sort of thing. Men don't usually want to spend the time. :peace:

Good evening, Henrin. :2wave
 
Bodhisattva said:
No. He wrote the Hobbit in 1937 and then later wrote the LOTR's from 1937-1949. It wasn't published until the '50's though. The whole concept started with the Silmarillion in 1914 though.
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The Silmarillion! I've a copy buried in the apple boxes in the basement full of books that just can't be tossed out but there's no room for on the shelves- never could get very deep into it.
 
polgara said:
:agree: :thumbs: They wouldn't have wanted to send people out of the threatre all wild eyed, would they? :lamo: I joined the rest of the threatregoers in cheering when Froto actually threw the evil ring in the volcanic lava! Whew, he finally finished his task after going through so much! :applaud
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Sorry, it's a bit of a quibble, but one of the points of the story is that Frodo didn't throw the ring into the fire.
 
Grand Mal said:
The Silmarillion! I've a copy buried in the apple boxes in the basement full of books that just can't be tossed out but there's no room for on the shelves- never could get very deep into it.
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It took me 3 tries over a couple of decades to finally get through it. Tolkien's son was not quite the wordsmith his father was IMO. Though I suspect we will see it too adapted into a movie pretty soon. I saw an interview with Peter Jackson recently where the interviewer asked him if there was anymore Tolkien stories to be made into film and he speculated on The Silmarillion, I guess Farmer Giles of Ham and company might not make for three hour multiple movie money makers!;)
 
Arthur Seward said:
It took me 3 tries over a couple of decades to finally get through it. Tolkien's son was not quite the wordsmith his father was IMO. Though I suspect we will see it too adapted into a movie pretty soon. I saw an interview with Peter Jackson recently where the interviewer asked him if there was anymore Tolkien stories to be made into film and he speculated on The Silmarillion, I guess Farmer Giles of Ham and company might not make for three hour multiple movie money makers!;)
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It seemed a little 'King James Version'. I'd appreciate a translation by someone like Peter Jackson. it might make a good reversal- see the movie before reading the source.
 
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