View Poll Results: Would You Support A Government Shutdown Under These Conditions?

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  • I am Liberal/Democrat: I would support a shut down in that situation

    0 0%
  • I am Liberal/Democrat: I would not support a shut down in that situation

    8 20.51%
  • I am Conservative/Republican: I would support a shutdown in that situation

    2 5.13%
  • I am Conservative/Republican: I would not support a shut down in that situation

    4 10.26%
  • I am other: I would support a shutdown over unemployment benefits

    6 15.38%
  • I am other: I would not support a shutdown over unemployment benefits

    13 33.33%
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Thread: Would You support Shutting The Government Down In This Situation?

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    Re: Would You support Shutting The Government Down In This Situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Shut the government down much more often I say.
    Why? So we look dysfunctional to the world? Sorry, but no, shutting down the government is not a good idea in the grand scheme of things. It proves to the world our instability to even govern ourselves.

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    Re: Would You support Shutting The Government Down In This Situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    How do you picture a government working like this? For example how would a disabled veteran apply for claims if say he completed his medical examination the day after the shut down? Just suck it up for a year and hope you can process the entire claim and be issued a check in a day?

    Stupid.
    But less government! Hooray! Derp dee derp derp!

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    Re: Would You support Shutting The Government Down In This Situation?

    No, I don't think extending unemployment benefits is something worth shutting the gov't down over. However, what I see occurring with this situation is that both sides will frame it exactly that way and yet not budge on their position. Obviously, the GOP will lose because when in recent history has our society said "Hey, we should stop getting this free stuff even if I've been getting it for over a year!"
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    Re: Would You support Shutting The Government Down In This Situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    But less government! Hooray! Derp dee derp derp!
    Even your boy Pres Obama has called for less gov't so you can derp dee derp all you want.
    Obama Blames Government For "Making It More Difficult" To Get Something Done | Video | RealClearPolitics
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    Re: Would You support Shutting The Government Down In This Situation?

    I think the government does far more harm then good.

    As long as the military and potentially life-and-death programs get funded...I am for shutting the government down almost every time any of the following occurs...a full moon, the Dallas Cowboys winning a game or a cow passing gas.

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    Re: Would You support Shutting The Government Down In This Situation?

    I never support a shutdown ever. It just makes y'all look quaint.

    In other news, we just abolished our debt ceiling by symbolically abolishing the death penalty. An unholy marriage between the conservatives (government) and the socialists (minor opposition party) paved the way. Pigs can Fly!!!

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    Re: Would You support Shutting The Government Down In This Situation?

    i don't support shutdowns. if extended unemployment is the only sticking point, it has to be compromised. however, this is a theoretical. in reality, it won't ever just come down to that one issue. the issue is that a vocal minority hates the president so much that they must fight or take apart everything he has done or wants to do, even if the nation suffers because of it. due to the split in the house, these few representatives wield enormous power.

    it won't be unemployment, though they'll surely be against that, too. the sticking point will be more Obamacare, Obamacare, Obamacare. rinse and repeat.

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    Re: Would You support Shutting The Government Down In This Situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i don't support shutdowns. if extended unemployment is the only sticking point, it has to be compromised. however, this is a theoretical. in reality, it won't ever just come down to that one issue. the issue is that a vocal minority hates the president so much that they must fight or take apart everything he has done or wants to do, even if the nation suffers because of it. due to the split in the house, these few representatives wield enormous power.

    it won't be unemployment, though they'll surely be against that, too. the sticking point will be more Obamacare, Obamacare, Obamacare. rinse and repeat.
    I support shutdowns, but only because sequestration kicks in and drops the Military Offense budget by 10%. It is the only thing I have ever seen that is effective at curtailing our National Policy of Permanent War/Institutional Insanity.

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    Re: Would You support Shutting The Government Down In This Situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    The federal government "shutdown" typically involves a paid vacation (sometimes with added unemployment benefits) for "non-essential" federal workers and unpaid forced leave for some gov't contract personnel. As we saw with the white house tours, a cut means that priorities can still be supported even with less in the total budget. The insane assertion that only by maintaining "full funding" can the gov't operate effectively, has thus been proven false.

    Another point is that budget cuts are really just lower increases than our congress critter's are comfortable making. The federal labor (GS) system contains built in "automatic" pay increases (grade/step), what most in the private sector call raises, but the federal gov't pretends are mandatory. In other words, while the taxpayer gets no increase in pay, they are expected to accept giving each federal worker regular, periodic "time in grade" or "step" increases simply because they exist and did not get fired.

    Reaching a federal budget agreement is a basic annual requirement (now turned into a circus) and often replaced by simply rubber stamping a 5 year old "budget" with a few across the board increases and calling it a "continuing resolution". This saves the congress critter's from actually having to make choices or appearing to support any moronic individual item in the "budget".

    I support a permanent federal shutdown until funding each department, program and agency (over $10M) is given an independent up/down vote using a roll call procedure, placing on the public record the yay/nay of each congress critter. This is the only way that the voting public can determine who actually supports what federal spending. Only by shining a light on exactly who voted for the Cowboy Poetry Festival, a military "super toy" not even requested by the Pentagon or the study of shrimp on a treadmill can we ever hope to get federal spending under control.
    I like your permanent shutdown option as a means to cut all the non-essential fat from the government. It's grown far too large and hungry for the value that it actually delivers to the electorate.

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    Re: Would You support Shutting The Government Down In This Situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    I support shutdowns, but only because sequestration kicks in and drops the Military Offense budget by 10%. It is the only thing I have ever seen that is effective at curtailing our National Policy of Permanent War/Institutional Insanity.
    and that's the first part that will get patch bills to restore full funding. science / social programs / employment will be the areas that suffer. cutting long term military spending via sequestration is a pipe dream.

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