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Question about race: Is a white south african, who immigrated to america....

Is a white South African, American citizen...considered an African american?


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OH, here's a curveball, I'm adopted, so I'm actually nothing. You can file me under misc., the lost and found box. Misc-American. New race for us lost children of the western hemisphere.

We need to create a Misc-American history month. It will be about a page long.

....and there I was, being all Miscellaneously American.
 
Once you're American, IMO, there's no such thing as Blankblankblank anything. You're just American. I mean, she still speaks the language, I spoke it as a kid, but it's irrelevant. They don't fly the medusa, my dad doesn't do a jig, it's an American family.

I don't know. I've always been perplexed by people's obsessions with backgrounds. I'm a hop skip and a jump from the 'old countries', but I don't recognize it. Than you have Joey Diblahblahdio rocking Italia shirts and he doesn't speak a drop of it, is about 5th generation, and his last name isn't even spelled correctly.

It's always agitated me.

Embrace diversity.
 
OH, here's a curveball, I'm adopted, so I'm actually nothing. You can file me under misc., the lost and found box. Misc-American. New race for us lost children of the western hemisphere.

We need to create a Misc-American history month. It will be about a page long.

....and there I was, being all Miscellaneously American.

That's called a mutt. It's what most of us Americans are.

This could, actually, be the source of your discomfort with the recognition of heritage.
 
Embrace diversity.

I've always subscribed to the melting pot school of thought when it comes to this. With major emphasis on cuisine. I draw the line there.

Oh and latin dance. I like that.
 
That's called a mutt. It's what most of us Americans are.

This could, actually, be the source of your discomfort with the recognition of heritage.

You think it's a deep routed issue surrounding my adoption?

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I've always subscribed to the melting pot school of thought when it comes to this.

Myself as well. I value interculturalism, not artificially delineated multiculturalism.

As in ecology, the space shared by two systems (in this case, cultures) enjoys more diversity than either system alone.

The phenomenon of increased variety of plants as well as animals at the community junction is called the edge effect and is essentially due to a locally broader range of suitable environmental conditions or ecological niches.
Ecotone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Interculturalism could be called the sociotone edge effect, rich in sociological niches.
 
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You think it's a deep routed issue surrounding my adoption?

Not really that deep rooted, it's fairly transparent. You're jealous of people who take a sense of pride in their bloodlines because that's something you can't experience. Like every human being, you want to belong, and not being able to join this "club" agitates you.

But it's cool man. Maybe you should search for your biological parents?
 
Not really that deep rooted, it's fairly transparent. You're jealous of people who take a sense of pride in their bloodlines because that's something you can't experience. Like every human being, you want to belong, and not being able to join this "club" agitates you.

But it's cool man. Maybe you should search for your biological parents?



I had to.
 
Here's an interesting take on things. I think of race as B.S. It's something played on by people with an agenda. I think of us as humans. So this isn't a race ploy, I suppose I want to prove a point here.


Is a white of skin color, south african...that immigrates to the United States....now considered an African American?


Put that in your pipe and smoke it race baiters on both sides.

John Kerry's wife is an African-American. She was born in Africa and was naturalized as an American citizen.

Before all of this PC bull #### hyphenated-Americanism of the mid 1970's was started by the radical left, an hyphenated-American was a foreign born person who was naturalized as an American citizen.


But that progressive, Thodore Roosevelt looked at it a diffrent way.

Teddy Roosevelt: "No Room in This Country for Hyphenated Americans"


>" “There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all.”
“This is just as true of the man who puts “native” before the hyphen as of the man who puts German or Irish or English or French before the hyphen. Americanism is a matter of the spirit and of the soul. Our allegiance must be purely to the United States. We must unsparingly condemn any man who holds any other allegiance.”
“But if he is heartily and singly loyal to this Republic, then no matter where he was born, he is just as good an American as any one else.”
“The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English- Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian- Americans, or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality than with the other citizens of the American Republic.”
“The men who do not become Americans and nothing else are hyphenated Americans; and there ought to be no room for them in this country. The man who calls himself an American citizen and who yet shows by his actions that he is primarily the citizen of a foreign land, plays a thoroughly mischievous part in the life of our body politic. He has no place here; and the sooner he returns to the land to which he feels his real heart-allegiance, the better it will be for every good American.” "<
Theodore Roosevelt
Address to the Knights of Columbus
New York City- October 12th, 1915

Reaganite Republican: Teddy Roosevelt: "No Room in This Country for Hyphenated Americans"
 
The whole ethnic ID label in America is a courtesy and nothing more.
 
I think the whole politically correct "race doesn't exist" line is a joke. Talk about willful blindness, or seeing only what you want to see.

That's like saying blue eyes are a myth.

Look around you. Some people are black, some people are white, some people are asians, some are a mix. Even a child can tell the difference.

Race really doesn't exist. Obviously there is an easily noticeable difference between say, a Sudanese person and a Norwegian person, but those are some polar opposites. Someone who lives on one side of the Ural mountains is considered Asian, while someone on the other side is considered white. It makes no sense. If you consider Hispanic a race, someone living on one side of the Pyrenees mountain is Hispanic while someone on the other side is white. In both cases, the people involved would appear to be of the same race. If you were to ask a kid, the kid wouldn't think they were different races.
 
Here's an interesting take on things. I think of race as B.S. It's something played on by people with an agenda. I think of us as humans. So this isn't a race ploy, I suppose I want to prove a point here.


Is a white of skin color, south african...that immigrates to the United States....now considered an African American?


Put that in your pipe and smoke it race baiters on both sides.


From an archaeological standpoint, ALL humans originated in the region known today as Kenya, Africa. Per that reasoning we are ALL of African ancestry. Chew on that one for a bit.
 
From an archaeological standpoint, ALL humans originated in the region known today as Kenya, Africa. Per that reasoning we are ALL of African ancestry. Chew on that one for a bit.

Wrong.

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Again, I'd like this conversation to continue, but for now, I retire. I'm going on martini #...who knows. Friends don't let friends post drunk.
 
OH, here's a curveball, I'm adopted, so I'm actually nothing. You can file me under misc., the lost and found box. Misc-American. New race for us lost children of the western hemisphere.

We need to create a Misc-American history month. It will be about a page long.

....and there I was, being all Miscellaneously American.

Not so fast! :)

You could make a DNA test and see from which ingredients you are made of. Then you can contact people whom call themselves pure of a certain ingredient and see what they have for you in building meaning for your life.

You may be a certain breed alone after all. Did you made any tests?
 
Sure. Some people wear blue shirts, some people wear flip flops, if we trivialize it to that point and let this B.S. go...we might be able to move on and tackle real issues. Birmingham is over, nobody is marching anymore. Moving onto the next issue would be nice.

Yes, let's move on to the next issue. KKK'ers who drag black men to their deaths on the back of their pickup trucks, which happened right here in Texas after the year 2000. Yes, Birmingham is over, but it's ugly spirit remains. If you are attempting to claim that racism is dead, then you have been living in a cave.
 
Yep. Just like a friend of mine who is Egyptian got preference for the Police exam because he put African American down on the application.

It's a helluva thing...
 
Here's an interesting take on things. I think of race as B.S. It's something played on by people with an agenda. I think of us as humans. So this isn't a race ploy, I suppose I want to prove a point here.


Is a white of skin color, south african...that immigrates to the United States....now considered an African American?


Put that in your pipe and smoke it race baiters on both sides.

No. That is not what the term was invented to convey, nor is it its common usage.
 
It requires an awareness and an appreciation of accurate terminology. It recognizes differences in perspective and how that impacts communication. It promotes discussion at a level above the average mullet-wearing trailer-park dweller.

Don't you have a mullet?
 
Key is recognizing the differences and accepting each other as the individuals we are.
 
Here's an interesting take on things. I think of race as B.S. It's something played on by people with an agenda. I think of us as humans. So this isn't a race ploy, I suppose I want to prove a point here.


Is a white of skin color, south african...that immigrates to the United States....now considered an African American?


Put that in your pipe and smoke it race baiters on both sides.

Race has nothing to do with the country/continent of your, or that of your ancestors, citizenship used to be.
 
Yep. Just like a friend of mine who is Egyptian got preference for the Police exam because he put African American down on the application.

It's a helluva thing...

Yep. The ability to "self identify" yopour race/ethnic statuss, like Elizabeth Warren, is quite a hoot. Just as having a "minority" status for a county gov't contract does not apply to white males, even if they are a minority within that county.

http://www.princegeorgescountymd.go...Minority-Business-Opportunity-Commission.aspx
 
Wait a minute, I'm very PC and proud of it. I see PC as social intellectualism. Nonetheless, I see no harm in someone recognizing their ancestry. I don't see it as a divider but a celebration of diversity.[/QUOTE

Uhh, Eco, you have me snickering here..;)

Where the hell does one find "social intellectualism." defined ??? Will you share the meaning ?

Language is wonderfully confusing... sometimes

Thom Paine
 
When you see this, go look up nihilism. I understand that philosophical references can confuse and befuddle some people, but I think after studying it you will be capable of grasping my retort.

Knowing the definition of the word, I admit that I failed to look it up. I did not look for other uses. Having done so, I now see that your argument was flawed in a different way than first glance.

Since I was adult enough to look up my area of naiveté, I will look forward to you doing the same. Start with these terms; sentence structure, supporting arguments, evidences, and value.

When you improve these areas of your argument, I think it would be much more enjoyable to continue. We can even work in more complex stuff for you later.
 
Texas is racist. Vidor comes to mind.
 
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