"God is the name by which I designate all things which cross my path violently and recklessly, all things which alter my plans and intentions, and change the course of my life, for better or for worse."
-C G Jung
Perhaps it is only because of my own particular background, but binomial nomenclature seems second nature to me. That people would wish to further define humans according to specific sub traits seems no more arch to me than dividing sub types of a certain plant species into recognized cultivars. There doesn't need to be any value judgements associated with such activity, though people tend to do just that with the resulting push in the other direction by those who wish to deny.
The funny thing is, if one approached the world in terms of making either/or distinctions, even if the individual distinctions being made are black and white, if one indulges in enough of them the results are inevitably grey. Perform enough either/or distinctions with humans and the end product is the individual, which is as it should be.
"you're better off on Stormfront discussing how evil brown men are taking innocent white flowers." Infinite Chaos
No. Nationality has nothing at all to do with race... If race did exist. Ecofarm pretty much nailed it. Of course I see terms like "African Americans" etc as divisive and unnecessary here. We are all United States citizens of different heritages and backgrounds. Hell People from Mexico are also "Americans." In fact people from South of of border are more "American" than most who claim to be "American."
Now, since you were the one to bring etymology into the discussion, you can hardly get upset at my use of semantics. Well, obviously you can as evidenced by your crude attempts to demean me, but it is rather silly.
My comment was based on the fact that being native is a binary state. There aren't degrees of being native. You can apply it to being born somewhere, in which case anyone born in the US is native to the US or you can apply it culturally, in which case no culture is shown to be truly native to the US. It's intellectually dishonest (a cute little phrase I enjoy) to say that one culture is more native than another.
It's probably worth mentioning that I don't care what a group wants to call themselves to divide themselves from being American. I chimed in for much the same reason I play the Highlights games in doctors' offices. The atmosphere and previous arguments reminded me of childhood for some reason. Political correctness is hardly an intellectual pursuit and I mostly just find it entertaining to watch the foolishness as a spectator.
Omniscience just sucks without omnipotence!
I have one such friend. We kid around about her being African American all the time. Similar fun designations were assigned to Theresa Kerry, an immigrant from Mozambique, when her husband John Kerry was the Democrat nominee for President in 2004.
Free insight into black culture: most blacks don't see ethnicity when they think of "the black community." They think of choosing to be a part of, identifying with and being supportive America's population; at least first and foremost. People like Robin Thicke, Michael Pfleger and Bill Clinton are thought of as part of the African American community more than Allen West, Alan Keyes and Clarence Thomas because the "white guys" are seen as intentionally choosing to identify with the black population while the "black guys" I listed are true or false perceived as intentionally choosing to not identify with the black population. Not completely but to an extent especially at the social level.
Last edited by Smeagol; 12-06-13 at 06:32 PM.
Having opinions all over the map is a good sign of a person capable of autonomous thinking. Felix -2011