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    Re: Question about race: Is a white south african, who immigrated to america....

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Personally, I don't give a ****.

    There is only one race...the human race.

    Deciding a person's 'race' based on the melanin content of their skin is ignorant in the extremis, IMO.
    If only it were that easy .. but that is not the world we exist in. I wish it was.

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    Re: Question about race: Is a white south african, who immigrated to america....

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Compared to Africans, yes! This is what you fail to understand - ancestry is not a couple generations deep. Having spent time with white South Africans and a white Zimbabwean, I can assure you they had no African traditions or culture. They were aware of such things, but had not adopted them.

    Show me a white guy in sub-Sahara with a bone in his nose and a painted face worshiping a tree and practicing magic and then, perhaps, your side of the argument will have the slightest bit of evidence.
    Do you really not realize how ridiculously racist it is to insinuate that having a bone in your nose it what defines "African culture"? Further, if you didn't pick up on the differences between white Africans and White Europeans (accent, mannerisms, etc) then it is not all that surprising you can't tell the difference between white Americans and White europeans.

    The culture that did not come from Europeans.
    Which one? There is no monolithic African culture. Believe it or not, there is even variety amongst "bones in their nose" cultures, many of which are not African.

    This debate has become too stupid for me. I draw the line at nihilism.

    Good day.
    I can assure you it started off stupid, and I'm not at all depressed at your willingness to further such racism. Trust me, I'll live without it.
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    Re: Question about race: Is a white south african, who immigrated to america....

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Don't worry, according to some morons, we all have African culture. We're all Africans!
    Well, according to others, regardless of the fact that all of our "races" originated in Africa, all that matters is the color of your skin to qualify you as African. That sir, is exceptionally moronic. Exceptionally.
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    Re: Question about race: Is a white south african, who immigrated to america....

    Quote Originally Posted by loader View Post
    I've seen a lot in New York, when they occupied Wall-street.
    Eating Chinese take-out doesn't make a person Chinese


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Question about race: Is a white south african, who immigrated to america....

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Stupid arguments, devoid of knowledge regarding Africa and sociology. That kind of BS is for children.

    As someone with a PhD(c) in Ecology and Sociology, having spent years in Africa, I can assure you that those arguments are an embarrassment for any learned person.
    Apparently your PhD in sociology didn't teach you much about culture and it's impact on humanity. One is not any less genetically African than any other, the only thing that really separates us is culture.
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    Re: Question about race: Is a white south african, who immigrated to america....

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Eating Chinese take-out doesn't make a person Chinese
    It's true. But they not only ate Chinese, but also crapped under theyself. Which clearly makes them savages.

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    Re: Question about race: Is a white south african, who immigrated to america....

    By the way, I just did a google image search of "African people." Very few of them actually had bones in their noses...just sayin.
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    Re: Question about race: Is a white south african, who immigrated to america....

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackAsCoal View Post
    If only it were that easy .. but that is not the world we exist in. I wish it was.
    So do I.

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    Re: Question about race: Is a white south african, who immigrated to america....

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Their ancestors are not African.


    History of South Africa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    They would be South African Americans, or just "mutts" like the rest of us.
    Although the argument could be made that "African" means sharing native sub-saharan african ethnicity, the term also fits, for Afrikaners, for North africans.

    Beyond that, there is wide genetic variation amongst "sub saharan" africans, and so the term does not imply genetic variation alone but superficial appearance.

    Also, these differences may or may not matter there, or here in the US. So the most correct answer is that anything goes, imo.

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    Re: Question about race: Is a white south african, who immigrated to america....

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Yes, let's move on to the next issue. KKK'ers who drag black men to their deaths on the back of their pickup trucks, which happened right here in Texas after the year 2000. Yes, Birmingham is over, but it's ugly spirit remains. If you are attempting to claim that racism is dead, then you have been living in a cave.
    You are correct, racism is very much alive. It's kept alive by people like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Oprah, etc. who make a ton of money off it.

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