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Thread: Question about race: Is a white south african, who immigrated to america....

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    Re: Question about race: Is a white south african, who immigrated to america....

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Native tribes still exist.
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    Re: Question about race: Is a white south african, who immigrated to america....

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    But white South Africans, born and raised by people born and raised there aren't?
    Correct. Do you not understand that it's about ancestry, not nationality?

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    Re: Question about race: Is a white south african, who immigrated to america....

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Correct. Do you not understand that it's about ancestry, not nationality?
    I understand thats what you're making it. I don't agree with it. The reality is that it's more about culture than anything else, and South Africans of any skin tone are culturally different than Europeans.
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    Re: Question about race: Is a white south african, who immigrated to america....

    Of.course we are all equal


    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    As far as I'm concerned, the hyphen between two countries indicates someone needs to make up their mind which side of the hyphen they are and get jiggy wid' it. All the hyphen tells me is that being an American like everyone else, in your mind, isn't good enough for you. Either we drink at the same water fountains or we don't. Sooner or later, we're going to have to make up our mind whether we're all equal and all Americans or whether we aren't. If you're a hyphenated American, you are making yourself something else from the rest of us. And that's OK as long as you don't scratch your head wondering why you ge treated like you're something else from the rest of us. If you like drawing that line, then accept that a line has been drawn. I'm OK with that then. We have lots of people here that aren't really Americans and I don't begrudge any of them being here as long as they're here legally. You don't have to love this country to live in it.

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    Re: Question about race: Is a white south african, who immigrated to america....

    I don't think he hates America and wants to leave. He seems to be proud his kid is serving in the military.

    I think he is trying to say that some people started using the label for particular reasons relating directly to US history.



    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    That pretty much confirms what I thought your position about this says about your attitude toward this country. But like I said, you don't have to love or respect it to live here. That's freedom.

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    Re: Question about race: Is a white south african, who immigrated to america....

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I don't think he hates America and wants to leave. He seems to be proud his kid is serving in the military.

    I think he is trying to say that some people started using the label for particular reasons relating directly to US history.
    The KKK likes to use a label that directly relates to US history, too, but I don't give them high marks for their contribution because of it, either.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    Re: Question about race: Is a white south african, who immigrated to america....

    Why are you mentioning responsibility? What is he failing to take responsibility for?

    I just don't follow your point or how you read into his post.



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    Re: Question about race: Is a white south african, who immigrated to america....

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    I understand thats what you're making it. I don't agree with it. The reality is that it's more about culture than anything else, and South Africans of any skin tone are culturally different than Europeans.
    Not the white South Africans I've met.

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    Re: Question about race: Is a white south african, who immigrated to america....

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Haiti is not part of Africa. I wouldn't jump to call them African myself.

    African American is most likely just an American cultural thing. There is a reason for it.
    Obama's father was African-American, because he came from Africa and spoil women in America. But Obama himself just American, though he has a dark skin. He is born of an American woman, and therefore he is an American.

    I was at Herman Cain rally in Washington. There I spoke to black Republicans that the nickname "African-American" offensive. They are not "African-American". They are "American-American." They agreed with me.

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    Re: Question about race: Is a white south african, who immigrated to america....

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    But white South Africans, born and raised by people born and raised there aren't?
    Heck, if one was born in Africa and comes to the good old usa, they are indeed African-Americans if they want to be hyphenized or just plain Americans if they don't. It is up to them I guess. If someone comes to America from China, Thailand, India, they are all Asian-Americans, why should someone from Africa be any different. All one has to do is look at a map.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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