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    Re: Question about race: Is a white south african, who immigrated to america....

    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelJR View Post
    Canadians. Answer me this. Do black people in Canada call themselves Canadian or African-Canadian?

    I have a feeling this plague of hyphens only plagues America.
    Canada does not share America's ugly ass history.

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    Re: Question about race: Is a white south african, who immigrated to america....

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackAsCoal View Post
    Canada does not share America's ugly ass history.
    That pretty much confirms what I thought your position about this says about your attitude toward this country. But like I said, you don't have to love or respect it to live here. That's freedom.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    Re: Question about race: Is a white south african, who immigrated to america....

    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelJR View Post
    Canadians. Answer me this. Do black people in Canada call themselves Canadian or African-Canadian?

    I have a feeling this plague of hyphens only plagues America.
    Black Canadians - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The term African Canadian is sometimes used by Black Canadians who trace their heritage to the first slaves brought by British and French colonists to the mainland of North America,[3] but many Blacks of Caribbean origin in Canada reject the term African Canadian as an elision of the uniquely Caribbean aspects of their heritage,[5] and instead identify as Caribbean Canadian.
    http://www.aclc.net/

    The Council on African Canadian Education (CACE) is the outgrowth of the Black Learners Advisory Committee (BLAC). Formed in 1990....
    African Canadian Services | African Canadian Services - Nova Scotia Department of Education and Early Childhood Development

    The African Canadian Services Division is located within the Public Schools Branch of the Nova Scotia Department of Education.
    Uncle Tom's Cabin - African Canadian Heritage Tour

    African Canadian Heritage Tour – A group tour experience

    The north shore of Lake Erie was a primary destination for fugitive slaves following the north star to Canada and freedom. This overnight excursion to the northern terminus of the Underground Railroad of activists and abolitionists who helped thousands of enslaved African Americans escape from the southern United States is also a journey about the innate desire to be free.
    They probably didn't get the memo on self determination like your "parents" did.
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    Re: Question about race: Is a white south african, who immigrated to america....

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    When has it not? Equality and fairness has always been the core of conservative philosophy. What libs/socialists and conservatives/libertarians argue about is the concept of "fair".
    Point that out. Point out where conservatives have embraced the diversity of the American people .. and I'll point out where they've stood in the door trying to block it.

    Do you believe that it's just bad luck that the right is so rejected by America's diverse population?

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    Re: Question about race: Is a white south african, who immigrated to america....

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    That pretty much confirms what I thought your position about this says about your attitude toward this country. But like I said, you don't have to love or respect it to live here. That's freedom.
    What? :0) Me thinks you're trying to run away .. reaching for the 'love or leave it ruse.' That's entertaining.

    Simple question .. does Canada share America's ugly ass history of slavery?

    So you reached for the ruse because I dare speak the truth?

    That's not patriotism, that's hiding. :0)

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    Re: Question about race: Is a white south african, who immigrated to america....

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackAsCoal View Post
    What? :0) Me thinks you're trying to run away .. reaching for the 'love or leave it ruse.' That's entertaining.

    Simple question .. does Canada share America's ugly ass history of slavery?

    So you reached for the ruse because I dare speak the truth?

    That's not patriotism, that's hiding. :0)
    I am trying to run away. Monday night football is coming on soon and I'd rather watch that than argue with an "African-American" about their contempt for America based on a history no one alive had anything to do with. Just keep that big ass chip on your shoulder till you're tired of the extra weight. I'm not knocking it off for you. I'm just turning around and walking away. Cheers.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    Question about race: Is a white south african, who immigrated to america....

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackAsCoal View Post
    Point that out. Point out where conservatives have embraced the diversity of the American people .. and I'll point out where they've stood in the door trying to block it.

    Do you believe that it's just bad luck that the right is so rejected by America's diverse population?
    I don't think it's coincidence at all that so many people with your attitude find the republican message of personal responsibility to be repulsive.

    But I'm outta here. Got a game to watch.
    Last edited by Papa bull; 12-09-13 at 09:13 PM.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    Re: Question about race: Is a white south african, who immigrated to america....

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    African American refers to ancestry, not country. If it referred to country, the country's name would be used. As it refers to ancestry, white South Africans can self-identify by their country of origin (South African Americans) but not by African heritage (African Americans). A white Kenyan could identify as a Kenyan American but not an African American, as (again) the latter reference is to ancestry.
    How do north Africans, that aren't black, fit in there?
    ”People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both.” --- Ben Franklin

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    Sterotypes are mostly based on truths.

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    Re: Question about race: Is a white south african, who immigrated to america....

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    How do north Africans, that aren't black, fit in there?
    Africans

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    Re: Question about race: Is a white south african, who immigrated to america....

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Africans
    But white South Africans, born and raised by people born and raised there aren't?
    ”People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both.” --- Ben Franklin

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