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    Re: Question about race: Is a white south african, who immigrated to america....

    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelJR View Post
    Here's an interesting take on things. I think of race as B.S. It's something played on by people with an agenda. I think of us as humans. So this isn't a race ploy, I suppose I want to prove a point here.


    Is a white of skin color, south african...that immigrates to the United States....now considered an African American?


    Put that in your pipe and smoke it race baiters on both sides.
    Would he not be a European-African-American?

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    Re: Question about race: Is a white south african, who immigrated to america....

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Would he not be a European-African-American?
    Reppin' mad continents yo.

    Few more and we can just skip the hyphens and start calling him Pangea.

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    Re: Question about race: Is a white south african, who immigrated to america....

    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelJR View Post
    Reppin' mad continents yo.

    Few more and we can just skip the hyphens and start calling him Pangea.
    Or just human. But, hey. I've never been one who insists we call ourselves American.

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    Re: Question about race: Is a white south african, who immigrated to america....

    Did I mention hyphenated nouns are divisive?

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    Re: Question about race: Is a white south african, who immigrated to america....

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    As long as we self separate and self segregate ourselves by what we call ourselves and identify ourselves, we can never become one people.

    There should not be any hyphenated Americans. We are either ALL Americans, or we are not.
    Why would diversity be a problem?

    Does the rejection of diversity make us 'one people' .. or does it just make us pretend to be blind?

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    Re: Question about race: Is a white south african, who immigrated to america....

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I don't think phrases like African American or Native American divides people, nor do German American Clubs or Greek festivals.

    Racial categories and labels has always been somewhat controversial. But using the phrase African American, is a lot less divisive and offensive then the former phrases of Negro and Negroid.

    But you've also previously argued that we shouldn't even use racial classification, and that's not practical. We need to recognize and use racial identification in medicine, anthropological studies, ancient human studies, etc.

    Recognizing our racial differences, and accepting those differences... hurts nobody. you can't run around and pretend race doesn't exist.
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    Re: Question about race: Is a white south african, who immigrated to america....

    How would anyone know the difference between euro-Americans and African-Americans if we didn't use our full hyphenated descriptions? And it is very important that we make such distinctions. It helps maintain a proper "us and them" perspective on things that is so important for social harmony.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    Re: Question about race: Is a white south african, who immigrated to america....

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I don't think phrases like African American or Native American divides people, nor do German American Clubs or Greek festivals.

    Racial categories and labels has always been somewhat controversial. But using the phrase African American, is a lot less divisive and offensive then the former phrases of Negro and Negroid.

    But you've also previously argued that we shouldn't even use racial classification, and that's not practical. We need to recognize and use racial identification in medicine, anthropological studies, ancient human studies, etc.

    Recognizing our racial differences, and accepting those differences... hurts nobody. you can't run around and pretend race doesn't exist.
    Well said.

    Racial division isn't created by honesty. It has been created by centuries of discrimination and inequality. Through hard work and much pain, things are better today. However, better isn't equal to absence of racism. Ignoring the issues and problems that remain will not move us forward. Only more honest discussion and work will make things even better still.

    On a practical note, people always categorize. It may not be best practice, but it will happen a sure as night will fall.

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    Re: Question about race: Is a white south african, who immigrated to america....

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    How would anyone know the difference between euro-Americans and African-Americans if we didn't use our full hyphenated descriptions? And it is very important that we make such distinctions. It helps maintain a proper "us and them" perspective on things that is so important for social harmony.
    'Social harmony???'

    Truth is an adversary of social harmony?

    NO .. it is not.

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    Re: Question about race: Is a white south african, who immigrated to america....

    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelJR View Post
    Here's an interesting take on things. I think of race as B.S.
    It's something played on by people with an agenda. I think of us as humans. So this isn't a race ploy, I suppose I want to prove a point here.


    Is a white of skin color, south african...that immigrates to the United States....now considered an African American?


    Put that in your pipe and smoke it race baiters on both sides.



    If you think of race as B.S. then why are you talking about it, are you a B.S. spreader?

    The only race on this planet is the human race.

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