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Thread: Question about race: Is a white south african, who immigrated to america....

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    Re: Question about race: Is a white south african, who immigrated to america....

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Often times it is needed to have an intellectual conversation without disrespectfully, inflaming people. If you use inflammatory language or talk like a partisan hack, then people focus on your language and words instead of the merit of your arguments.

    But certain people on DP have no merit or arguments, and they are pretty much begging to be flamed.
    I think you are mistaken. PC creates a chilling effect on an intellectual conversation. An intellectual conversation generally requires truth. PC is contrary to truth



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    Re: Question about race: Is a white south african, who immigrated to america....

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Ask the women and children of My Lai what they think about Colin Powell. Oh, wait -- you can't. Most of them are dead.
    that's silly-most of them have no clue who Colin Powell is even if they are still alive.



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    Re: Question about race: Is a white south african, who immigrated to america....

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that's silly-most of them have no clue who Colin Powell is even if they are still alive.
    They aren't alive. That's the point.

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    Re: Question about race: Is a white south african, who immigrated to america....

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    It's hard to believe that people just give up their culture.

    Maybe his parents started calling themselves American instead of Irish and Sicilian, but its hard to believe that he just threw away all their cultural ties. Its a huge part of one's identity. How does somebody just suddenly stop being Sicilian and start being American?

    Its just impossible in what I have seen in my own parents.
    That's mostly why I don't believe his story. It sounds like something out of a Francis Ford Coppola movie with far more grammatical mistakes. The first generation hardly ever gives up cultural ties much less stop calling itself by its birth nationality. It just so happens that a guy with a bone to pick over what people label themselves has two immigrant parents who both decided to give up on their heritage? Lol. That's even less believable than being the adopted child of two first generation immigrants.
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    Re: Question about race: Is a white south african, who immigrated to america....

    maybe you have a good point lol

    That is a lot of cultural heritage being abandoned in one family.



    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    That's mostly why I don't believe his story. It sounds like something out of a Francis Ford Coppola movie with far more grammatical mistakes. The first generation hardly ever gives up cultural ties much less stop calling itself by its birth nationality. It just so happens that a guy with a bone to pick over what people label themselves has two immigrant parents who both decided to give up on their heritage? Lol. That's even less believable than being the adopted child of two first generation immigrants.

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    Re: Question about race: Is a white south african, who immigrated to america....

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    They aren't alive. That's the point.
    I thought many of them believed in reincarnation?



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    Re: Question about race: Is a white south african, who immigrated to america....

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    maybe you have a good point lol

    That is a lot of cultural heritage being abandoned in one family.
    You'll find a lot of that here. Once someone in the forum admitted that a good reason to tell people on the internet that you're of a race other than white is because your opinions aren't questioned. Can you imagine? Just so happens that poster was - by their account - of a race other than white. Convenient isn't it? The internet is a convenient place for people to anonymously pretend to be something they're not to give their opinions more status. It's kind of stupid if you think about it. Pretending to be X so your opinion can be valued? Defeats the entire purpose of being against affirmative action.
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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    Re: Question about race: Is a white south african, who immigrated to america....

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I see PC as intellectual timidity.
    Because you are extremely focused on the individual. From a sociologic standpoint, it's gracious in the effort of advancement.

    It allows people to abdicate responsibility to call a spade a spade.
    It removes the throne of responsibility from the common denominator.

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    Re: Question about race: Is a white south african, who immigrated to america....

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Wait a minute, didn't you just say that it's a celebration of diversity to identify where your ancestors came from? Now you're telling him there's no such thing as Italian-Irish Americans? I guess it only counts for diversity when you apply it to minorities, huh?
    One notation allowed. That's the rule. Otherwise, you're a mutt.

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    Re: Question about race: Is a white south african, who immigrated to america....

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Since the whole of humanity sprang from Africa, absolutely everyone's ancestors are African.
    I tell my Kenyan friends that settling there is coming home.

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