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Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act

Should the hospital treat you or wait until they know if you can pay

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sangha said:
If someone on the internet says so, then it must be true! :roll:
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Precisely the problem will your arguments here. None are backed up by the real world. But in the end, it doesn't matter what you believe chattering in the echo chamber, sooner or later you'll experience it firsthand. You or someone you love will go to an ER and find it packed and you'll be waiting for hours. You'll try to find a primary care doctor and discover there is indeed a massive shortage. You'll get old enough to receive Medicare but won't be able to find a doctor in your area to accept it.
 
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It's a bit of a nonsensical question since you're unconscious and they can't determine if you can pay unless they stabilize you and ask. Therefore yes, they should save your life and then ask before doing more than that.
 
clownboy said:
Precisely the problem will your arguments here. None are backed up by the real world. But in the end, it doesn't matter what you believe chattering in the echo chamber, sooner or later you'll experience it firsthand. You or someone you love will go to an ER and find it packed and you'll be waiting for hours. You'll try to find a primary care doctor and discover there is indeed a massive shortage. You'll get old enough to receive Medicare but won't be able to find a doctor in your area to accept it.
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Nonsense. My claims are backed by the facts, such as how there are now more doctors accepting Medicare.

You, on the other hand, are claiming that ER's are providing non-emergency care because they are afraid of being sued. Yet, you haven't posted any hard evidence that this is actually happening in the real world.
 
sangha said:
Nonsense. My claims are backed by the facts, such as how there are now more doctors accepting Medicare.

You, on the other hand, are claiming that ER's are providing non-emergency care because they are afraid of being sued. Yet, you haven't posted any hard evidence that this is actually happening in the real world.
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Your claims are not backed by facts or reality, at least the reality of those who actually work in the ERs. As for medicare, ask your grandparents to educate you on their experience, maybe you'll believe them over what you're hearing on the internet by folks who have no connection with the problem but have a stake in you believing everything is coming along nicely.

There are folks here on this forum who actually work, or have, in hospitals, actually work, or have, in the healthcare field - they all say the same thing I've been telling you.
 
clownboy said:
Your claims are not backed by facts or reality, at least the reality of those who actually work in the ERs. As for medicare, ask your grandparents to educate you on their experience, maybe you'll believe them over what you're hearing on the internet by folks who have no connection with the problem but have a stake in you believing everything is coming along nicely.

There are folks here on this forum who actually work, or have, in hospitals, actually work, or have, in the healthcare field - they all say the same thing I've been telling you.
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Keep pretending that you speak for the entire medical community. I'm starting to fall for it.
 
sangha said:
Keep pretending that you speak for the entire medical community. I'm starting to fall for it.
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Don't have to pretend, I happen to work with those folks every day. The ones who oversee admitting, policies and procedures. I know why they craft the policies the way they do and I know how they get their funding.
 
Is this a trick question?
 
clownboy said:
Don't have to pretend, I happen to work with those folks every day. The ones who oversee admitting, policies and procedures. I know why they craft the policies the way they do and I know how they get their funding.
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Yes, and I'm sure you're the only person in the nation who works with those folks every day even though we've had a nurse post in this thread about how the hospital she works at is separating out the non-emergency patients.
 
DA60 said:
Is this a trick question?
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No, it's not. It just could be worded a little better

Basically, because of the law, a hospital *will* treat this person. They are required to do so. What I want to know is do you think this is right?
 
sangha said:
Yes, and I'm sure you're the only person in the nation who works with those folks every day even though we've had a nurse post in this thread about how the hospital she works at is separating out the non-emergency patients.
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Wow, and she agrees with with what I've said here and disagrees with your unrealistic take on it. Go back and read the posts, this time for understanding not just for talking points. We do not disagree with one anohter in what we've said.
 
clownboy said:
Wow, and she agrees with with what I've said here and disagrees with your unrealistic take on it. Go back and read the posts, this time for understanding not just for talking points. We do not disagree with one anohter in what we've said.
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You're dreaming

She has both agreed and disagreed with both of us, depending on the point being made at the time. Surprisingly, she has an opinion of her own.

But as far as treating non-emergency cases to avoid lawsuits goes, she specifically said that where she works, they have drastically reduced the amount of non-emergency work they do without getting a payment in advance.

In fact, here is what she said in response to your (unsubstantiated) claim concerning how hospitals are afraid to turn ER patients away of they're not having an emergency

lizzie said:
In the hospital where I work, they have managed to cut a good bit of er abuse out, with a pretty stringent triage system. The patients are triaged, with a basic assessment and workup done, and if you don't meet emergency criteria, then you are referred to a case manager, who tells you that you must pay up front, or you won't be seen further. It seems to work fairly well from what I can tell.
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