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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Worst in history!

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    Obama has always been an establishment type centrist. He just sold you on being black and you can't seem to separate skin color from 'political change".
    Or, you know, the policies he advocates. Even when he doesn't manage to get congress to pursue them, he still argues in their favor. Crazy, right? That the black president ought to be judged by what he says and does, rather than his skin color, just like the 42 white presidents who came before him.
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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Skin color and guilt is what elected him, and now you call the race card with Oprah? Your as sadly integrated with a false premise as he is! Try this; What doe's the other 42 whites have to do with it? Nada!

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hiram View Post
    Worst in history!
    Not even remotely close, and to claim so just displays a stunning ignorance of actual history.

    I chose "average," although I think he's actually slightly below. Pretty much mediocre.
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    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Couldn't wait to drag out the deck of cards, eh?
    Criticizing someone for being pro-segregation is "playing the race card"?

    Accusations of "playing the race card" are little more than a cheap tactic to avoid talking about race when, in the case of segregation and Nixon, it's clearly relevant.
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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    I'd like to know what GW did that you think is so bad? Aside from the extreme liberal media bias against him, I mean. If you're referring to the slumped economy at the end of his second term, that was caused primarily by the Democrat controlled House and Senate. If you're referring to the wars, they were approved by a majority of the same House and Senate. Obama has done far worse damage to America than any other President, the numbers (not polls) clearly prove that.

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Hell nah...

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mordecai View Post
    All right, I understand the relative importance of Amendment X, but I cannot understand why anybody believes that Amendment X is such a vital part of America's government that the "destruction" of it "causes many of the problems we have today." If that's true, why wasn't Amendment X able to do anything about the myriad problems President Roosevelt was attempting to address?
    The expansion of the federal government past the boundaries set upon it by the founders led to such idiocies as the war on drugs, federal gun control and allowed the abomination known as ObamaTaxCare.



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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    I believe Obama's legacy will not be viewed favorably by the majority.

    Someone should write a sequel to his book "Audacity of Hope" and call it "Audacity of Ignorance". I have never seen a president in my lifetime nor the history of presidents past that claimed ignorance to so many things that occurred during his time in office. He did not know anything about Fast and Furious, or Benghazi, or the IRS targeting conservative groups, or his so called key legislation, Obamacare, was not ready for prime time.

    He will be remembered for his desire to use drones on American citizens, fire first, ask questions later. His foreign policy starting from 2009 going to foreign countries apologizing for the United States and shafting our few friends in the region in favor of groups our country lists as terrorists. He will be remembered for wanting to attack Syria with missles killing even more people than Assad had accomplished instead of reaching out to all the refugees that had fled to countries like Jordan, Turkey with an all out humanitarian effort extending a helping hand and building relationships with people that could change the thinking of many who have been taught to hate the United States.

    He will be remembered for his feckless spending, the 800 billion stimulus that did not go to shovel ready jobs. He will be remembered not willing to cut spending and produce a balanced budget year after year significantly adding to our national debt. He will be remembered for expanding government involvement in our economy attacking capitalism by replacing it with more corporatism. Whether it be corporate or entitlement programs, he will be remembered as the Welfare President.

    He will be remembered for his cronyism for all the special favors to unions, environmentalists, and his Cabinet that was stacked with appointees awarded for political service.

    He will be remembered by those who believe in the rule of law as excessively violating his oath to uphold the Constitution.

    ◾Used Executive Privilege in regards to Fast & Furious gun running scandal. When Government misconduct is the concern Executive privilege is negated.
    ◾23 Executive Orders on gun control – infringement of the 2nd Amendment
    ◾Executive Order bypassing Congress on immigration – Article 1 Section 1, ALL Legislative power held by Congress
    ◾NDAA – Section 1021. Due process Rights negated. Violation of 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th Amendments.
    ◾Executive Order 13603 NDRP – Government can seize anything
    ◾Executive Order 13524 – Gives INTERPOL jurisdiction on American soil beyond law enforcement agencies, including the FBI.
    ◾Executive Order 13636 Infrastructure Cybersecurity – Bypassing Congress Article 1 Section 1, ALL Legislative power held by Congress
    ◾Signed into law the establishment of NO Free Speech zones – noncompliance is a felony. Violation of 1st Amendment.
    ◾Attempt to tax political contributions – 1st Amendment
    ◾DOMA Law – Obama directed DOJ to ignore the Constitution and separation of powers and not enforce the law.
    ◾Dodd-Frank – Due process and separation of powers. Consumer Financial Protection Bureau writing and interpreting law. Article. I. Section. 1
    ◾Drone strikes on American Citizens – 5th Amendment Due process Rights negated
    ◾Bypassed Congress and gave EPA power to advance Cap-n-Trade
    ◾Attempt for Graphic tobacco warnings (under appeal) – 1st Amendment
    ◾Four Exec. appointments – Senate was NOT in recess (Court has ruled unconstitutional yet the appointees still remain)
    ◾Appointing agency czars without the “advice and consent of the Senate.” Violation of Article II, Section 2
    ◾Obama took Chairmanship of UN Security Council – Violation of Section 9.
    ◾Obamacare (ACA) mandate – SCOTUS had to make it a tax because there is no Constitutional authority for Congress to force Americans to engage in commerce.
    ◾Contraceptive, abortifacients mandate violation of First Ammendment
    ◾Healthcare waivers – No president has dispensing powers
    ◾Refuses to acknowledge state’s 10th Amendment rights to nullify Obamacare
    ◾Going after states (AZ lawsuit) for upholding Federal law (immigration) -10th Amendment.
    ◾Chrysler Bailout -TARP – violated creditors rights and bankruptcy law, as well as Takings and Due Process Clauses – 5th Amendment (G.W. Bush also illegally used TARP funds for bailouts)
    ◾The Independent Payment Advisory Board (appointees by the president). Any decisions by IPAB will instantly become law starting in 2014 – Separation of Powers, Article 1 Section 1.
    ◾Congress did not approve Obama’s war in Libya. Article I, Section 8, First illegal war U.S. has engaged in. Impeachable under Article II, Section 4.
    ◾Obama falsely claims UN can usurp Congressional war powers.
    ◾Obama has acted outside the constitutional power given him – this in itself is unconstitutional.
    ◾With the approval of Obama, the NSA and the FBI are tapping directly into the servers of 9 internet companies to gain access to emails, video/audio, photos, documents, etc. This program is code named PRISM. NSA also collecting data on all phone calls in U.S. – Violation of 4th Amendment.
    ◾Plans to sign U.N. Firearms treaty – 2nd Amendment.
    ◾The Senate/Obama immigration bill (approved by both) raises revenue – Section 7. All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives;
    ◾Obama refuses to uphold the Business Mandate Law (ACA) for a year. President does not have that authority – Article. I. Section. 1. All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States. The president ”shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed” -Article II, Section 3.
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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Is Obama a good president? In comparison to what? Overall, he is no better of worse than most that we have had in the last century.

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