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    Re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    good pick up on the quote. how does one safely harness nuclear power, other then we do now? OK. another soundbite..
    invest in clean coal is nice, I just don't want my electric bill tripled
    It was just thrown into the speech to let those who would be effected most to not be afraid. I doubt he had any intention of actually following through with any of this, as was demonstrated after his election. It's quite interesting to see his campaign speeches and then see what happened after he won. Duping the people a second time was definitely a 'fool me twice-shame on me' situation.

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    Re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    There was a rumor that Obama's wife moved out of his bedroom. She was very angry at him for improper conduct at the funeral of Mandela, where Barack was photographed with a blonde. Why we all prefer blondes?

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    Re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    So what?

    Anyone not agreeing with leftists are right or far right. There is no middle for them.
    I didn't say that at all. I was merely pointing out that the majority of those who voted "No" were from the opposing party in which the President belongs. As such, their opinion on the matter can hardly be viewed as very objective now, can it?

    The point I was trying to make is judge him on the merits and then maybe such a poll would seem more legitimate and less partisan.
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    Re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I didn't say that at all. I was merely pointing out that the majority of those who voted "No" were from the opposing party in which the President belongs. As such, their opinion on the matter can hardly be viewed as very objective now, can it?

    The point I was trying to make is judge him on the merits and then maybe such a poll would seem more legitimate and less partisan.
    It seems people are judging him on his merits and finding them wanting. He is simply in well over his head and this has been easily seen. While he was a candidate everyone looked at him and saw what they wanted to see and not the actual candidate. He was the equivalent of Harriet Mirers to the Supreme Court.

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    Re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It seems people are judging him on his merits and finding them wanting. He is simply in well over his head and this has been easily seen. While he was a candidate everyone looked at him and saw what they wanted to see and not the actual candidate. He was the equivalent of Harriet Mirers to the Supreme Court.
    He was articulate and sold the "hope and change" thing really well. We very much wanted that, and since he was also relatively new, we wanted him to not be from the old guard and be a change from the some old crap we've been getting.

    Unfortunately, we got the same old crap. I attribute this to two things: 1) he wasn't as dedicated to change as he implied, and 2) the establishment is firmly established and doesn't move easily.
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    Re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    He was articulate and sold the "hope and change" thing really well. We very much wanted that, and since he was also relatively new, we wanted him to not be from the old guard and be a change from the some old crap we've been getting.

    Unfortunately, we got the same old crap. I attribute this to two things: 1) he wasn't as dedicated to change as he implied, and 2) the establishment is firmly established and doesn't move easily.
    He still got what he wanted though in the case of Obamacare, despite the political opposition and that of the American people themselves.

    He obviously doesn't understand the marketplace, or even the American people, but there were enough who shared his theories that he managed to get it done. Now it will slowly unravel, after trillions in waste, but he did accomplish that part of his agenda, as foolish as it was.

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    Re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    He still got what he wanted though in the case of Obamacare, despite the political opposition and that of the American people themselves.

    He obviously doesn't understand the marketplace, or even the American people, but there were enough who shared his theories that he managed to get it done. Now it will slowly unravel, after trillions in waste, but he did accomplish that part of his agenda, as foolish as it was.
    Yes and no. He got Obamacare, but not to the extent that he wanted. I agree it will unravel, but it will unravel because it is incomplete. If he had been able to get something closer to what he wanted, it might have had a better chance at succeeding.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I don't even think the "OBAMA HATES AMURRICA DURR DURR" line is race-baiting, it's simply buying into a load of horse**** that makes them feel better.

    Barack Obama's father, who Pres. Obama barely knew, was somehow such a huge influence on young Obama's life that he adopted his same "anti-colonial Kenyan" ideals and somehow "hates America" because no legitimate reason whatsoever that's ever been presented.

    There has been a concerted effort since Obama came into prominence among the right to paint him as an "other." HE'S NOT LIKE YOU. It's not race-baiting, it's xenophobia.

    It's hackish behavior, to claim that because Obama doesn't share their ideals he "hates America," and there are legit criticisms of the guy the right would be better served spending their time on. But instead, it's ideological masturbation. And in a few years when they don't have Obama to kick around anymore, these guys are going to be lost.
    It's definitely race baiting dude. Conservatives are the best at it.

    Look no further than conservative messiah Ronald "I believe in States rights" Reagan. He was a master race baiter who even put Sharpton to shame.

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    Re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that's moronic. There was no indication he was using coke until the summer after he graduated. and there was nothing to indicate Obama was a winner. and since my brother was an admissions officer at Yale and I recruited athletes for another Ivy, I know a bit more about the process than I suspect you do. You are just trying to cover up the fact that Obama's race is what got him where he is.

    If Obama had been a white guy he never would have been president
    If Reagan would have been a black guy, he would have never been president.

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    Re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Yes and no. He got Obamacare, but not to the extent that he wanted. I agree it will unravel, but it will unravel because it is incomplete. If he had been able to get something closer to what he wanted, it might have had a better chance at succeeding.
    The question is what is the definition of "succeeding". I often hear people hoping that Obamacare will be as "successful" as Medicare. Trillions in unfunded liabilities, tens of billions in fraud, abuse and waste annually. I believe Obamacare will eventually be "popular", successful? Depends on ones definition of "successful". Seems to me it's one more nail in the next generations coffin.

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