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    Re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Had Yale had any indication that such would happen, surely he would not have been admitted.

    Yes, Yale and all of the Ivy's screen for the upside and downside of students and are quick to dismiss for character flaws and admit for character. The Ivy's have a very complex admissions algorithm. It isn't all about raw scores. You need sufficient raw scores, rather than the best raw scores. They want diversity in the student populace as well as they want to find students that will ultimately "do the school proud".

    Yale screwed up on your "buddy" (they don't get them all right); Harvard had a winner with Barack. Then again, one is Harvard and the other is not.
    that's moronic. There was no indication he was using coke until the summer after he graduated. and there was nothing to indicate Obama was a winner. and since my brother was an admissions officer at Yale and I recruited athletes for another Ivy, I know a bit more about the process than I suspect you do. You are just trying to cover up the fact that Obama's race is what got him where he is.

    If Obama had been a white guy he never would have been president



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    Re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Yeah. Like I said, I probably saw too many racists with vile pictures on posters and disgusting anti-Obama slogans in these parts early on. I'm sure they gave me a jaundiced view of all the Obama opposition which came later. Nonetheless, even without the racial considerations, I still think a lot of the Obama opposition is knee-jerk crazy, like calling him a Marxist, Fascist tax and spend liberal...statements that the facts just do not bear out.

    In my view, Obama is very average. Unlike Bush, someone who wore his religion on his sleeve and steered the nation toward the cliff because of it, Obama is probably not committed enough to any one cause to actually be bad.
    he's got a very "progressive" agenda, he's quietly getting it done by the regulatory agencies. Do you think any more coal plants will be built?
    I doubt it. I'm all for curbing greenhouse gasses, but not at a competative disadvantage.

    Tuesday, the White House released its regulatory agenda for the fall of 2013. It lists hundreds of pending energy and environmental regulations being crafting by executive branch agencies, including 134 regulations from the Environmental Protection Agency alone. …

    Seventy-six of the EPA’s pending regulations originate from the agency’s air and radiation office, including carbon-dioxide-emission limits on power plants.

    Carbon-dioxide limits are a key part of President Barack Obama’s climate agenda. The EPA is set to set emissions limits that would effectively ban the construction of new coal-fired power plants unless they use carbon capture and sequestration technology.
    Next year, the agency will move to limit emissions from existing power plants — which could put more older coal plants out of commission
    Pattern: Obama admin again releases regulatory agenda right before a holiday « Hot Air
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    Re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I don't think it hurt him in his standing with other world leaders. A lot of them have or had their mistresses on the side.
    Yes, but Clinton did more just have a mistress. Paula Jones was never his mistress, nor was Lewinsky in any real sense. Clinton v. Jones - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Regardless, Bill was the leader of the free world and any sex scandal didn't effect that one bit.
    It wasn't a 'sex' scandal. Itwas a matter of sexual harassment in the work place which was a big concern of the day.

    The thing with Bill Clinton during the impeachment process, hearings and final senate vote from December of 1998 through February of 1999 his approval ratings started off at 63% in December and by the end of February his approval ratings rose to 66%. Perhaps those numbers reflect the witch hunt attitude of the public. I don't have the approval ratings of the Republicans in congress, but they really shrunk. In the end it was the republicans who were the villains, not Bill Clinton.
    The "witch hunt' was against Paula Jones, Kenneth Starr, Monica Lewinsky and Linda Tripp. Clinton his people and the media doing anything they could do vilify these people in the minds of the public, and it worked. Now it's still "all about sex' though this was never the case. It was all about sexual harassment in the work place and many people were losing their jobs because of law, with many high profile cases.

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    Re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Yes, but Clinton did more just have a mistress. Paula Jones was never his mistress, nor was Lewinsky in any real sense. Clinton v. Jones - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    It wasn't a 'sex' scandal. Itwas a matter of sexual harassment in the work place which was a big concern of the day.

    The "witch hunt' was against Paula Jones, Kenneth Starr, Monica Lewinsky and Linda Tripp. Clinton his people and the media doing anything they could do vilify these people in the minds of the public, and it worked. Now it's still "all about sex' though this was never the case. It was all about sexual harassment in the work place and many people were losing their jobs because of law, with many high profile cases.
    Hmm, at the time the Republicans were saying it was all about lying under oath. Regardless of the reality of the situation, the perception of most Americans at the time was the witch hunt was the republicans trying to bring down Bill Clinton.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    he's got a very "progressive" agenda, he's quietly getting it done by the regulatory agencies. Do you think any more coal plants will be built?
    He did say this. "As president, as president, I will tap our natural gas reserves, invest in clean coal technology, and find ways to safely harness nuclear power". http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/28/us...pagewanted=all

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    Re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Hmm, at the time the Republicans were saying it was all about lying under oath. Regardless of the reality of the situation, the perception of most Americans at the time was the witch hunt was the republicans trying to bring down Bill Clinton.
    Well he did lie under oath. That only 'perception' is there because the media, then as now, creates this perception. The real 'witch hunt' was against any women who claimed Clinton had approached them in any sexual way. Do you not recall how Linda Tripp was treated? Or Paula Jones. They were badgered and vilified constantly for exposing the truth.

    List of federal political sex scandals in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    he's got a very "progressive" agenda, he's quietly getting it done by the regulatory agencies. Do you think any more coal plants will be built?
    I doubt it. I'm all for curbing greenhouse gasses, but not at a competative disadvantage.
    Pattern: Obama admin again releases regulatory agenda right before a holiday « Hot Air
    It's truly sad but the believers will say it's just good politics, and no doubt it is. Many still have that hope and change feeling though and never have noticed how their incomes have shrunk and how the wealth around DC has grown.

    They not only accept crony capitalism and the rich getting richer, they actually applaud the government for sending tax payer dollars to big business. Just tell them its being used to 'save' jobs, or 'create' jobs and they'll fall into line. Barrack Obama must be laughing up his sleeve at his supporters.

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    Re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    And pretty much all of them lend Right in their political ideology.
    So what?

    Anyone not agreeing with leftists are right or far right. There is no middle for them.

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    Re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Well he did lie under oath. That only 'perception' is there because the media, then as now, creates this perception. The real 'witch hunt' was against any women who claimed Clinton had approached them in any sexual way. Do you not recall how Linda Tripp was treated? Or Paula Jones. They were badgered and vilified constantly for exposing the truth.

    List of federal political sex scandals in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    I have no doubt about that. But most Americans only listen to the news or watch their local news on TV for 5 or ten minutes a day. They don't delve into the goings on in Washington, they are more interested in their favorite reality TV show, the ball game, how their kids are doing in school, etc. Their perception of events was the one that mattered. perception and the truth are at times two entirely different animals. Didn't they call it spin control back then? Clinton and company was mighty good at it.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    He did say this. "As president, as president, I will tap our natural gas reserves, invest in clean coal technology, and find ways to safely harness nuclear power". http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/28/us...pagewanted=all
    good pick up on the quote. how does one safely harness nuclear power, other then we do now? OK. another soundbite..
    invest in clean coal is nice, I just don't want my electric bill tripled
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