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  • He's average

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  • Wait, Obama is president? Oh my god, what year is this?!

    1 0.40%
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    Re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It was the Left who said all those things, including this. “If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position. And if he was a woman of any color, he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept.” Geraldine Ferraro

    I only quoted Democrats. Barrack Obama won the Presidential nomination for the same reason he won the Nobel Peace Prize. "Old quotes" from 2008 is just five years ago.
    He won the Nobel Prize for NOT being George W. Bush.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    Remember this one?
    And you thought John McCain was announcing his foreign policy??

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    Re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    He won the Nobel Prize for NOT being George W. Bush.
    Then we all qualified, along with every other candidate, for Nobel Peace Prizes.

    Or maybe you're just trying to find a rational for this craziness. Give it more thought and you might do better than this.

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    Re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    You're clearly referring to the Administration's successful effort to serially lie about the impact of Obamacare before the election ... and that's a good point.
    Nonsense. Romney lost because Mitt from the Primary could not hide fast enough when we got to the general. As a result, he looked like a disingenuous flip flopper. There were other issues, but that was the biggie. Americans simply didn't believe his schtick. So, they went with the devil they knew.

    All the RW whining about ACA is hilarious btw. Of all the problems with Obama, that's not the one people outside of Fox Noise get excited about. It's another Benghazi--no big deal for anyone but the faux outragers.

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    Re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Obama won reelection because a lot of stupid people voted for him. After OCare, it will prob be decades before another Dim occupies the WH.

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    Re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    And you thought John McCain was announcing his foreign policy??
    I took it as an indication he was a loose cannon. More recently,remember him meeting with so called "freedom fghters" in Syria? He posed with AQ.

    Or this little goodie:

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    Re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Then we all qualified, along with every other candidate, for Nobel Peace Prizes.

    Or maybe you're just trying to find a rational for this craziness. Give it more thought and you might do better than this.
    Come on, you're not THAT dumb.

    Obama winning the Nobel was designed as a clear repudiation of Bush's policies. Nobody can be as intellectually ignorant as to claim he won it because he's black.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Smartmouthwoman View Post
    Obama won reelection because a lot of stupid people voted for him. After OCare, it will prob be decades before another Dim occupies the WH.
    Wanna bet?
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    No we don't agree on how we would rank them and that is okay as that is a personal thing. As I said views on issues vary and what is important to one isn't to another. IKE would be my number one if I was rating presidents from him forward. JFK has always been my number two, but I think having lived through his assassination and Camelot, that I rate him more on potential than what he actually did. I think up and until that day in Dallas, most Americans trusted their government and most Americans would have said the American dream is alive and well, we have one heck of a bright future. After Dallas all that changed.
    Thread worthy in its own right. Did American Dream Die in Nov '63?

    Clinton was be number three and Reagan four. For some reason both of these guy could connect with the people and most Americans like them regardless of what scandal they were in. Both I would say both were uniters. What I didn't like about Reagan was he talked liked a fiscal conservative and then spent like there was no tomorrow. Most people believed the rhetoric and not their eyes. Reagan and the balanced budget amendment seem to me as him say, please stop me from spending more as I can't stop myself.
    Clinton was brilliant. My #2, right behind Ike.

    Reagan had too many failures: AIDS, Iran-Contra, tripling the Debt, catering to the religious right, way too much military spending--he was the Anti-Ike. But...he also had some good points, especially the part about changing our nation's sour mood after the disaster of Carter.

    To me both LBJ and Nixon are ahead of Obama and Bush II. I think without Vietnam LBJ would have been ranked by historians as a near great president up there with Truman, Jefferson and Teddy Roosevelt. Nixon without Watergate, well look at what he did, He opened up Red China, I do not think any other president could have done that. He gave us the EPA, OSHA, the Endangered species Act, funds for education, revenue sharing, detente, and much more. For the life of me, this man governed like a liberal and perhaps was the most liberal president since FDR and hence, yet most people still call him a conservative. Why? Nixon was also all for Affirmative Action and did quite a lot on that scene too. Perhaps most people just can't get past the R and the D when it comes to labeling.

    Both of us are pretty close to each other, but there are differences and I think that is because we place different emphasis on different things.
    Just for the heck of it, here is mine from IKE to Obama and remember Obama is more of an incomplete and can rise and fall depending on what happens over the last three years of his presidency.
    1. Eisenhower
    2. JFK
    3. Clinton
    4. Reagan
    5. LBJ
    6. Bush I
    7. Nixon
    8. Bush II
    9. Obama
    10. Carter
    11. Ford

    I would say Obama and Bush II are basically tied at this point for me. I think outside Libya when Obama refused to go to congress, I really like his foreign policy so far. Domestically, for me he hasn't been that hot.
    I completely forgot about Ford. So we agree there.

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    Re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I judge him on his performance, which quite frankly stinks.
    Actually it doesn't. So there.

    He's won some biggies, lost some as well, and made no mark at all on much else. Hence, average.

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