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    Re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I am curious. You claim to be a libertarian. what libertarian policies do you think Obama advances that romney would not have?
    Very few to be honest. I didn't vote for either, but Obama was ultimately better than Romney.

    And it's not what he would promote, it's what he wouldn't.

    Obama wouldn't be trying to make marriage between a man and a woman. Obama wouldn't be trying to instigate a war with Iran. Ironically he did try to instigate a war in Syria but had Romney been in charge we'd be at war with Syria and Iran. Obama lied when he claimed he wouldn't be enforcing drug laws as harshly. Obama wouldn't be promoting legal avenues to make marriage between a man and a woman, which has neither a traditional or Constitutional basis.

    And despite Obama being a Dem I think his spending is actually less than what it would be if Romney were in charge.
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    Re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    you stated the next democrat after carter, whcih was bull****, your argument stinks
    Everyone knows the next pres after Carter was Clinton, whom I'm sure you believed couldn't possibly be worse than Carter. Then Obama came along and wow a new worst president ever.
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    Re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Very few to be honest. I didn't vote for either, but Obama was ultimately better than Romney.

    And it's not what he would promote, it's what he wouldn't.

    Obama wouldn't be trying to make marriage between a man and a woman. Obama wouldn't be trying to instigate a war with Iran. Ironically he did try to instigate a war in Syria but had Romney been in charge we'd be at war with Syria and Iran. Obama lied when he claimed he wouldn't be enforcing drug laws as harshly. Obama wouldn't be promoting legal avenues to make marriage between a man and a woman, which has neither a traditional or Constitutional basis.

    And despite Obama being a Dem I think his spending is actually less than what it would be if Romney were in charge.
    I don't rate gay marriage a real high priority for liberty.

    I rate financial freedom and clearly stated constitutional rights -such as the second amendment to be much higher

    and I think Obamacare is an abomination and a rape of the tenth amendment. His justices are far more anti freedom than the people we probably would have got from Romney (such as Peter keisler on the DC Court of Appeals)



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    Re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that makes no sense
    No it doesn't, and it doesn't when you make broad statements based on nothing but your knee-jerk right-wing groupspeak propaganda either. 'Just cuz I say so' works for the right so I thought I'd try it on for size.
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    Re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    This I think is an interesting question. I do not think, at least for me that one can't help but compare this president with other presidents. But one also must realize each presidency is unique, each faces different situations and the situations that have been with us a long time also changes. So it is both, you judge on how the current president handles events and situations that were left for him and how he faces new events and issues that arise during his term.

    One also has to remember the issues that are important to me may not be to someone else and vice versa. No two people will view any one president in the same light. With me I have quite a lot of presidents to compare him to as I can remember back to Eisenhower and yet each one is unique. So this president does get compared to other presidents by me in a subtle way but more so on the job he has done so far. One also has to realize he still has 3 years left. So how I or someone sees or rates this president today may change over the next three years or not.

    I am sure Democrats look at President Obama in an entirely different light than do Republicans. To a lot of these party die hards it is the R and the D that matters, not the name of the president or what he has done or is doing, whether he has been good for the country as a whole or bad for it. For me it may boil down to how this president handles the issues that are important to me and how his presidency so far has effect this country.

    But I do not see how anyone could rate or determine or judge any president in a vacuum. There is just too many outside factors that have to be taken into consideration.
    It does boil down to how this president handles the issues that are important to "me" and how his presidency so far has effected this country. Add to that a few other factors like who the other options were and how they would have handled those situations. Then, compare that to how other presidents have done in similar circumstances.

    Obama's biggest plus is riding out the "Great Recession" and doing what it took to keep it from becoming a depression. I think we were closer to disaster than the anti-Obamites here are willing to admit. Has employment rebounded quickly no. But, that is not a bad thing because too rapid of a change in employment usually triggers inflation. The recovery has been slow and steady.

    Obama's biggest minus is not finding a way to deal with the underclass. People are not being lifted up, education and employability of the bottom rungs are getting worse. This is a huge problem, and Obama was perfectly positioned to create strategies to achieve some hope and change in that area.

    Inbetween, we have a lot of this plus and minus stuff going on. In my mind they wash each other out. Hence, I judge him to be average.

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    Re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    No it doesn't, and it doesn't when you make broad statements based on nothing but your knee-jerk right-wing groupspeak propaganda either. 'Just cuz I say so' works for the right so I thought I'd try it on for size.
    Tell you the truth, it doesn't fit. You can have it back.
    Yawn, the Obama love is strong Could you even vote in US elections? I thought you said you were Canadian. SO why so enamored with the failure in chief?



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    Re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I don't rate gay marriage a real high priority for liberty.

    I rate financial freedom and clearly stated constitutional rights -such as the second amendment to be much higher
    Holding a pea shooter is a more important liberty than two people who love each other having a right to marry?

    Sheesh. No wonder I left the GOP

    and I think Obamacare is an abomination and a rape of the tenth amendment. His justices are far more anti freedom than the people we probably would have got from Romney (such as Peter keisler on the DC Court of Appeals)
    I'm surprised Roberts let it fly--not so much on tenth amendment grounds though. So, yes on the first part. But, no on the anti-freedom rant.

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    Re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by loader View Post
    Bin Laden's body was drowned in the sea, and two weeks later the team marins , participants in this operation, suddenly dies ... A little weird, huh?
    Barack's Birth Certificate looks funny too. Your point?

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    Re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Holding a pea shooter is a more important liberty than two people who love each other having a right to marry?

    Sheesh. No wonder I left the GOP


    I'm surprised Roberts let it fly--not so much on tenth amendment grounds though. So, yes on the first part. But, no on the anti-freedom rant.
    like it or not gays have the same objective right as others to marry in most states. that is a state issue not a constitutional issue. Marriage is not a "right" created or recognized by the constitution. I support gay marriage but I won't support someone who wants to create that constitutional right while ignoring rights that are clearly recognized by the constitution.



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    Re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Everyone knows the next pres after Carter was Clinton, whom I'm sure you believed couldn't possibly be worse than Carter. Then Obama came along and wow a new worst president ever.
    Evidently you didn't think so when you made your original statement. Carter sucked and now Obama sucks even worse. I don't blame you though, if I had voted for that idiot I wouldn't want to admit it to anyone either.

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