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    Re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I judge Obama based on his own merit.
    So, you got nothing to judge him by but your imagination. Nice.

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    Re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    When looking at all the other presidents we've had I can't possibly say he's below mediocre or better than average.

    His initial foreign policy successes have collapsed in upon themselves. And his rollout of the PPACA is an absolute disaster. But he was still the second best option and certainly better than Romney.
    Trump Attacked A Syrian Airfield. Trump will be a one-term president.

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    Re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    When you judge a president, it is germane to the conversation to compare him to prior presidents.

    Same question I asked Nota--Do you judge Obama in a vacuum?
    This I think is an interesting question. I do not think, at least for me that one can't help but compare this president with other presidents. But one also must realize each presidency is unique, each faces different situations and the situations that have been with us a long time also changes. So it is both, you judge on how the current president handles events and situations that were left for him and how he faces new events and issues that arise during his term.

    One also has to remember the issues that are important to me may not be to someone else and vice versa. No two people will view any one president in the same light. With me I have quite a lot of presidents to compare him to as I can remember back to Eisenhower and yet each one is unique. So this president does get compared to other presidents by me in a subtle way but more so on the job he has done so far. One also has to realize he still has 3 years left. So how I or someone sees or rates this president today may change over the next three years or not.

    I am sure Democrats look at President Obama in an entirely different light than do Republicans. To a lot of these party die hards it is the R and the D that matters, not the name of the president or what he has done or is doing, whether he has been good for the country as a whole or bad for it. For me it may boil down to how this president handles the issues that are important to me and how his presidency so far has effect this country.

    But I do not see how anyone could rate or determine or judge any president in a vacuum. There is just too many outside factors that have to be taken into consideration.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I'm not talking about Bush. The thread is about Obama. It's also not about Clinton or Reagan. It's about President Obama. There have been more people unemployed and collecting benefits since Obama became president. How many extensions have there been to unemployment benefits again? Remember all the hype about jobs? Then all the sudden, it's healthcare. The healthcare plan has been horribly inadequate so far, people's premiums are rising not to mention the computer glitches just to gain access to sign up. I'll think of more things later.
    Please do. You're off to a good start.

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    Re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    The same empirical data your speculations are based on, big boy. Just 'cuz I say so.
    that makes no sense



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    Re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    When looking at all the other presidents we've had I can't possibly say he's below mediocre or better than average.

    His initial foreign policy successes have collapsed in upon themselves. And his rollout of the PPACA is an absolute disaster. But he was still the second best option and certainly better than Romney.
    I am curious. You claim to be a libertarian. what libertarian policies do you think Obama advances that romney would not have?



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    Re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    So, you got nothing to judge him by but your imagination. Nice.
    you are claiming that Obama's "merit" is imaginary?

    I think you might be getting closer to the path of truth!



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    Re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    When looking at all the other presidents we've had I can't possibly say he's below mediocre or better than average.

    His initial foreign policy successes have collapsed in upon themselves. And his rollout of the PPACA is an absolute disaster. But he was still the second best option and certainly better than Romney.
    When a president is judged, I think it's like a rule of logic that he be compared to presidents past. When we do that, we cannot help but find Obama to be a middle-of-the-pack president, no better, no worse than the average presidents we've had throughout history. But, he is far better than the previous president.

    Also, important is to compare him to the two candidates he defeated in the general elections of 2008 & 2012, one of whom would still be looking for Osama Bin Laden somewhere (probably in Iraq and Afghanistan) and the other who would have us entrenched in another war, this time with Iran. Add to that the fact that had McCain won, we'd be saddled with the airhead Sarah Palin as VP, putting someone who neither speaks proper English nor is capable of critical thought one heartbeat away from the presidency.

    From that perspective, Obama is looking pretty damned good.

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    Re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    When did I say it wasn't? I was listing the generally recognized worst presidents by historians, but to people who hate Dems, every time a Dem is elected they're always worse than those.

    What are you even talking about? Keep your derangement syndrome in check please. Nobody's talking about Carter or Clinton, whom I suppose you think are the two worst presidents ever after Obama.
    you stated the next democrat after carter, whcih was bull****, your argument stinks

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    Re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    And probably would have missed the intended target.

    The Right had 7 years to get OBL. Pure fail. Obama nails him in less than three, and all the Right can do is say Obama's is a failed presidency.

    shakes head
    Bin Laden's body was drowned in the sea, and two weeks later the team marins , participants in this operation, suddenly dies ... A little weird, huh?

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