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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    The empire collapsed because they had archaic technology at a time when rapid technological change was essential. Computers, telecommunications, and falling energy prices took down the Soviets. Saying the three Western Leaders did it is like saying Obama lowered the sea level.
    Have you read what the Soviet Leaders themselves had to say? Are you accusing them of lying?

    They blame Reagan. Yhe American and European left are so determined not to give Ronald "Raygun" any credit they will distort history in order to place it elsewhere. What is wrong with giving your President the credit he deserves? Has America really turned on itself to that extent? You should be proud of what Americans did.

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Thanks for that. I clearly underestimated the man. Does this mean he also solved the global warming problem?
    Clearly this speech was Obama's "Sermon on the Mount". He led the jobless and forelorn down to the beach, waved his hands over the troubled waters and healed them, preventing the devil and the devils plan to raise the ocean levels and swallow up prized real estate. Praise be to Obama. <Amen>
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Well I agree that he was a little melodramatic with some of his speeches and writings, but what president isn't? I think you have to be a special kind of narcissist to even WANT to be the President of the United States. Thank God for narcissists!
    Yes, you're probably right but even the worst narcissist should have some record of competence in a couple of areas before they gain higher office. Stopping the oceans from rising is fine but how about balancing a budget, as promised? Some thought should have been given to the more mundane things.

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Clearly this speech was Obama's "Sermon on the Mount". He led the jobless and forelorn down to the beach, waved his hands over the troubled waters and healed them, preventing the devil and the devils plan to raise the ocean levels and swallow up prized real estate. Praise be to Obama. <Amen>
    And he did this despite the oceans being many miles away. With a wave of his hand he was able to divert tsunamis to Indonesia rather than to the homes of his friends in Malibu! We are blessed that he walks among us.

    Well, he is usually in a limo with several hundred special agents surrounding him, with a sign language expert and a teleprompter, but you get my drift.

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Have you read what the Soviet Leaders themselves had to say? Are you accusing them of lying?

    They blame Reagan. Yhe American and European left are so determined not to give Ronald "Raygun" any credit they will distort history in order to place it elsewhere. What is wrong with giving your President the credit he deserves? Has America really turned on itself to that extent? You should be proud of what Americans did.
    Prove Reagan had a massively overwhelming effect on the Soviet Unions collapse.

    The dissolution of the soviet union and the warsaw pact is so much more complex than "Reagan" and anyone with even a slight historical knowledge of the times knows that.

    There was many political factors, military factors, social factors and economic factors that lead to the ultimate conclusion that saying "Reagan ended the Soviet Union" is so ignorant it defies imagination.

    But I suppose you believe whatever your right wing american masters tell you to believe so I shouldn't be surprised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    interesting. I didn't know that. I mean it makse sense they were behind in tech, but I had though it was internal divisions
    or human rights, or simple centrifical forces that split the Empire.' (as empire tend to dissolve by nationalism)


    I'd like to read about this, do you have any source(s) I could look at? Or is this your general knowledge?
    I didn't really think about it until I read this piece. But, of course, once I did, it was a eureka moment. Moving forward since the 1980's meant being nimble, which really means relying on ever advancing technologies, primarily computers and telecommunication.

    Reagan’s conviction that the Soviet Union was both a dangerous military power and a collapsing economic system derived not from any deep knowledge of the Soviet Union. Yet he proved to be the proverbial right man in the right place at the right time. By whatever means he arrived at his views regarding the Soviet Union, he drew from them policy directions that were devastatingly effective in undermining the rotten Soviet edifice. Because of the high oil prices of the 1970s the Soviet leadership avoided serious economic reforms, such as those that saved Deng Xiaoping’s China. Instead, it relied on oil revenues as a means of keeping its decrepit economy going. By the early 1980s the Soviet Union was becoming a hollow shell, with an unreformed and increasingly backward industrial base producing outmoded pre-computer armaments. Thus it was highly vulnerable to the pressures that the Reagan administration was planning.
    But, as much as the USSR being relatively backward and low-tech compared to Silicon Valley and Western Washington, energy problems are what I believe mostly sunk the Soviets. Falling prices globally and more difficulty extracting what was left. Again, technology.

    The fall of the Soviet Union, wrote Gaidar in a 2007 paper, "should serve as a lesson to those who construct policy based on the assumption that oil prices will remain perpetually high."

    ...in the mid-1980s, Soviet oil production topped off at 12 million barrels a day due to poor management, old technology and lack of investment. And then oil production started to drop. As oil fields ran dry, the authorities spent more cash to coax more petroleum from aging reservoirs with massive water flooding programs...

    Just before Soviet oil production peaked in 1988 (the event walked hand in hand with a major drop in oil prices), the empire realized that it no longer had enough black gold to pay its bills.

    The Tyee &ndash; What Really Killed Soviet Union? Oil Shock?

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Have you read what the Soviet Leaders themselves had to say? Are you accusing them of lying?
    So now you believe the Soviets...when it's convenient?

    They blame Reagan. Yhe American and European left are so determined not to give Ronald "Raygun" any credit they will distort history in order to place it elsewhere. What is wrong with giving your President the credit he deserves? Has America really turned on itself to that extent? You should be proud of what Americans did.
    I don't kneel down and fellate a president. I look to facts and let them tell me why the USSR collapsed.

    These are the facts.
    The Tyee &ndash; What Really Killed Soviet Union? Oil Shock?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Prove Reagan had a massively overwhelming effect on the Soviet Unions collapse.

    The dissolution of the soviet union and the warsaw pact is so much more complex than "Reagan" and anyone with even a slight historical knowledge of the times knows that.

    There was many political factors, military factors, social factors and economic factors that lead to the ultimate conclusion that saying "Reagan ended the Soviet Union" is so ignorant it defies imagination.

    But I suppose you believe whatever your right wing american masters tell you to believe so I shouldn't be surprised.
    It's actually quite stunning to witness all the Reagan worship we see here. And, the overall irony is these are the same people that accuse anyone who supports or defends Obama as a "Messiah worshiper". The cognizant dissonance is amazing.

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Thanks for that. I clearly underestimated the man. Does this mean he also solved the global warming problem?
    No one said he did it...not even him.

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    So now you believe the Soviets...when it's convenient?
    After the fall the Soviet leaders blamed it on trhe policies of Ronald Reagan. You probably have other sources, but I find that what the Soiets had to say to be more informative in this case. Why is it "convenient" to quote what those mpst involved have to say? Does that mean it is 'inconvenient' for you?

    I don't kneel down and fellate a president.
    Well maybe someday. In the meantime you can continue trying to work your way up the social ladder..

    These are the facts, with a question mark at the end??

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