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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tothian View Post
    There are others who some might consider worse. Be it on things they did OR media. You hear a lot about how Jimmy Carter was a bad President. Good man, just ineffective.

    As for Bill Clinton, you don't hear it a lot that he let bin Laden go and told the people who caught him that we don't want him, and to let him go - even though it was known that he tried to again attack failed targets.

    Lyndon Johnson - potential conspirator behind the assassination of Kennedy - Johnson was under some kind of investigation and Kennedy was likely going to replace Johnson on the 1964 ticket - but the truth behind that has mixed answers.

    Herbert Hoover - the Great Depression lasted during his entire 4 year Presidency.

    And every President before Lincoln who supported slavery. Andrew Johnson supported it too, but even more-so supported the Union.
    personally , Jimmy carter was a far bigger asshole than Obama. Ask any member of the 1980 Olympic team about the threats and bullying that turd engaged in towards the team members. I have met dozens of secret service agents who did presidential details. phony asshole is the most common comment about Carter. And this wasn't political. Many of these same guys detested Ron Reagan Jr and his mother. hillary Clinton, however, might have been the least popular presidential family member in recent years. BTW many of the guys who detested Carter and Hillary Clinton liked Bill



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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    all you ever needed to know about spending is in here

    2013 United States federal budget - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    If you bother look closely, most of the money is absorbed in Military and security related expenses followed closely by SS and then Medicare.
    which one of those is clearly a power delegated to the federal government in the Constitution



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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Yes, the collapse of communism disappointed a great many people.
    Nonsense. Undue credit given to a man who had little to do with the USSR collapse.

    The Collapse of the Soviet Union and Ronald Reagan
    Reagan’s conviction that the Soviet Union was both a dangerous military power and a collapsing economic system derived not from any deep knowledge of the Soviet Union. Yet he proved to be the proverbial right man in the right place at the right time. By whatever means he arrived at his views regarding the Soviet Union, he drew from them policy directions that were devastatingly effective in undermining the rotten Soviet edifice. Because of the high oil prices of the 1970s the Soviet leadership avoided serious economic reforms, such as those that saved Deng Xiaoping’s China. Instead, it relied on oil revenues as a means of keeping its decrepit economy going. By the early 1980s the Soviet Union was becoming a hollow shell, with an unreformed and increasingly backward industrial base producing outmoded pre-computer armaments. Thus it was highly vulnerable to the pressures that the Reagan administration was planning.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficeffice" />

    ...contrary to Mr. Jones’ statement, "Reagan had much to do with it." One major thought that Mr. Jones and many others overlook is the thought that the USSR truly began to collapse with Nikita K’s famous “secret speech” which denounced Stalin back in the 50s.
    Reagan caused the Soviet Union's collapse is a myth sold by the RW agenda.

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    which one of those is clearly a power delegated to the federal government in the Constitution

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Nonsense. Undue credit given to a man who had little to do with the USSR collapse.

    The Collapse of the Soviet Union and Ronald Reagan
    Oh, well THAT settles it.
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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Oh, well THAT settles it.
    No, but it should make you think. Of course, it probably feels better to worship at Ronnie's feet like your handlers and propagandists want.

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    No, but it should make you think. Of course, it probably feels better to worship at Ronnie's feet like your handlers and propagandists want.


    As if I'm not extremely well-conversant with the era and subject matter. Some of us are actually educated, calamity.
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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post


    As if I'm not extremely well-conversant with the era and subject matter. Some of us are actually educated, calamity.
    Obviously not enough to look past the "Ronnie single handily destroyed the USSR" propaganda.

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Obviously not enough to look past the "Ronnie single handily destroyed the USSR" propaganda.
    Enough to understand the strawman you offer here. Maybe someday you will, too.
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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by cabse5 View Post
    Wasteful spending? Christ, (not profanity) are you a closet Libertarian - a tea partier?
    Libertarians are the only ones concerned about wasteful spending? I think not.

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