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  • He's average

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  • Wait, Obama is president? Oh my god, what year is this?!

    1 0.40%
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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Generally speaking - he's no better and no worse than any previous president over the last few decades.
    That's not a compliment or praise no matter how it's sliced.

    The ACA will be the final nail in the coffin for pushing him off the fence one way or the other.
    It's too early to tell how that's going to pan out, but the road has sure looked ominous so far.

    (I did not vote for Obama in either election)
    Even when you consider he hasn't stopped campaigning?

    Has any other President done this?

    He is constantly out talking to groups to sell them on what he wants to get done. Is he a President or a salesman?

    Recently he is trying to sell a law that has already been passed so it seems a complete waste of time and money to me.

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Too soon to tell, to be honest, but I chose average. Obama is neither so far the best nor likely to be the worst. He is a good speaker, is well educated and intelligent, but he does not seem to be able to control even his own party in congress or manage to select very good help to run the executive functions of the federal govt. I would grade him a D so far.
    D is below average just to be clear.

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    Those polls and studies mean nothing as long as he is in the white house. Hell, they won't mean anything for at least a decade after to be honest. Things like Obamacare and Iran Deal will determine where he ranks in the scheme of things.
    We are allowed to have our opinions now though.

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post
    I'm sure this will end in a proper and dignified manner.
    Was Bush? Cause they're the same.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Absolutely the worst President in my lifetime and that includes Jimmy Carter and Nixon.
    Nixon was pretty damned decent in hindsight. Squeaky clean by today's standards.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    That's fine if he only won one term. The problem is that he was re-elected. If he is a horrible president, does that by default make Americans horrible voters?
    Voting against Romney does not equal voting for Obama.

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    D is below average just to be clear.
    Brilliant observation, thus he had better improve his performance in order to meet my expectation of his potential.

    He has 3 years left.
    “The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Awesome! View Post
    Obama is a great President, Father and Husband. A hero to this nation who bleeds red white and blue and follows the constitution to the letter because he believes in limited power, accountability and transparency. We can only be so lucky to have this legendary man as our President, who loves this nation, our traditions and ideals...
    You left off the sarcasm icon.

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    I believe Obama's legacy will not be viewed favorably by the majority.

    Someone should write a sequel to his book "Audacity of Hope" and call it "Audacity of Ignorance". I have never seen a president in my lifetime nor the history of presidents past that claimed ignorance to so many things that occurred during his time in office. He did not know anything about Fast and Furious, or Benghazi, or the IRS targeting conservative groups, or his so called key legislation, Obamacare, was not ready for prime time.

    He will be remembered for his desire to use drones on American citizens, fire first, ask questions later. His foreign policy starting from 2009 going to foreign countries apologizing for the United States and shafting our few friends in the region in favor of groups our country lists as terrorists. He will be remembered for wanting to attack Syria with missles killing even more people than Assad had accomplished instead of reaching out to all the refugees that had fled to countries like Jordan, Turkey with an all out humanitarian effort extending a helping hand and building relationships with people that could change the thinking of many who have been taught to hate the United States.

    He will be remembered for his feckless spending, the 800 billion stimulus that did not go to shovel ready jobs. He will be remembered not willing to cut spending and produce a balanced budget year after year significantly adding to our national debt. He will be remembered for expanding government involvement in our economy attacking capitalism by replacing it with more corporatism. Whether it be corporate or entitlement programs, he will be remembered as the Welfare President.

    He will be remembered for his cronyism for all the special favors to unions, environmentalists, and his Cabinet that was stacked with appointees awarded for political service.

    He will be remembered by those who believe in the rule of law as excessively violating his oath to uphold the Constitution.

    ◾Used Executive Privilege in regards to Fast & Furious gun running scandal. When Government misconduct is the concern Executive privilege is negated.
    ◾23 Executive Orders on gun control – infringement of the 2nd Amendment
    ◾Executive Order bypassing Congress on immigration – Article 1 Section 1, ALL Legislative power held by Congress
    ◾NDAA – Section 1021. Due process Rights negated. Violation of 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th Amendments.
    ◾Executive Order 13603 NDRP – Government can seize anything
    ◾Executive Order 13524 – Gives INTERPOL jurisdiction on American soil beyond law enforcement agencies, including the FBI.
    ◾Executive Order 13636 Infrastructure Cybersecurity – Bypassing Congress Article 1 Section 1, ALL Legislative power held by Congress
    ◾Signed into law the establishment of NO Free Speech zones – noncompliance is a felony. Violation of 1st Amendment.
    ◾Attempt to tax political contributions – 1st Amendment
    ◾DOMA Law – Obama directed DOJ to ignore the Constitution and separation of powers and not enforce the law.
    ◾Dodd-Frank – Due process and separation of powers. Consumer Financial Protection Bureau writing and interpreting law. Article. I. Section. 1
    ◾Drone strikes on American Citizens – 5th Amendment Due process Rights negated
    ◾Bypassed Congress and gave EPA power to advance Cap-n-Trade
    ◾Attempt for Graphic tobacco warnings (under appeal) – 1st Amendment
    ◾Four Exec. appointments – Senate was NOT in recess (Court has ruled unconstitutional yet the appointees still remain)
    ◾Appointing agency czars without the “advice and consent of the Senate.” Violation of Article II, Section 2
    ◾Obama took Chairmanship of UN Security Council – Violation of Section 9.
    ◾Obamacare (ACA) mandate – SCOTUS had to make it a tax because there is no Constitutional authority for Congress to force Americans to engage in commerce.
    ◾Contraceptive, abortifacients mandate violation of First Ammendment
    ◾Healthcare waivers – No president has dispensing powers
    ◾Refuses to acknowledge state’s 10th Amendment rights to nullify Obamacare
    ◾Going after states (AZ lawsuit) for upholding Federal law (immigration) -10th Amendment.
    ◾Chrysler Bailout -TARP – violated creditors rights and bankruptcy law, as well as Takings and Due Process Clauses – 5th Amendment (G.W. Bush also illegally used TARP funds for bailouts)
    ◾The Independent Payment Advisory Board (appointees by the president). Any decisions by IPAB will instantly become law starting in 2014 – Separation of Powers, Article 1 Section 1.
    ◾Congress did not approve Obama’s war in Libya. Article I, Section 8, First illegal war U.S. has engaged in. Impeachable under Article II, Section 4.
    ◾Obama falsely claims UN can usurp Congressional war powers.
    ◾Obama has acted outside the constitutional power given him – this in itself is unconstitutional.
    ◾With the approval of Obama, the NSA and the FBI are tapping directly into the servers of 9 internet companies to gain access to emails, video/audio, photos, documents, etc. This program is code named PRISM. NSA also collecting data on all phone calls in U.S. – Violation of 4th Amendment.
    ◾Plans to sign U.N. Firearms treaty – 2nd Amendment.
    ◾The Senate/Obama immigration bill (approved by both) raises revenue – Section 7. All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives;
    ◾Obama refuses to uphold the Business Mandate Law (ACA) for a year. President does not have that authority – Article. I. Section. 1. All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States. The president ”shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed” -Article II, Section 3.
    All of that and you forgot to list that he killed NASA.

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    We would have been better off putting Carter back in office.
    Maybe that is true.

    Ineffectual is better than doing damage.

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