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    1 0.40%
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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Thanks for posting that remembrance, Pero. I just knew I liked the guy, and what he said made enough sense to me to vote for him!
    He did a lot more for several different presidents behind the scenes when it came to foreign affairs shall I say. He was a real patriot.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    : And that attitude seems to be more entrenched every day, instead of getting better. Reid using the nuclear option doesn't help relations between the two parties, either. What's wrong with DC?
    Or, what's wrong with the electorate? That might be a more reasonable question to ask but to answer it would insult half the country.

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by loader View Post
    Once I hired workers to fix my house. And pay them forward. Repair is still not finished.
    The American people (very poor and the very rich) paid to Obama a big advance. Rich got back billions of dollars, poor, its free bread. The middle class got nothing.
    And with government growing unchecked the middle class will continue to shrink until there is just rich and poor, with the politicians and the bureaucracy among the former.

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Or, what's wrong with the electorate? That might be a more reasonable question to ask but to answer it would insult half the country.
    Yep!

    Greetings, Grant.

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Compromise, giving a little to take a little. A willingness to take two steps backwards in order to move forward three steps. The realization that one can't expect to get 100% of what they want and the other guy 0%. That in order to move legislation forward, sometimes one has to settle for 60% while giving away 40%. Besides most Americans like incrementalism, they have their routine and massive change upsets their apple cart. But people will accept a little change here and a littler there and over time that massive change takes reality.

    Politics is said to be the art of the possible. Our politicians need to learn what is and what isn't possible and be willing to nibble at times when taking a full bite isn't possible. They need to talk to each other instead of over the head or around each other. They need to listen to each other and need to try to understand each other. This my way or the highway attitude has to go.
    That's idealistic conservatism at its best but it also tends to mean finishing second.

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Or you're could be misunderstanding. I'm not sure how you define "good" but I did not mean to imply his popularity had anything to do with it. What's happened is there's an entire industry in America dedicated to seeing the president fail, by their own words. In time they were successful in generating a significant level of strong passions against the president using common propaganda tactics we all learned about in high school. Eventually they were able to get like minded candidates elected in sufficnt numbers who took oaths to support their agenda before they even took the oath to support and defend to constitution. Although they do not represent the majority of elected officials and not even the majority of ther own party, they do have enough numbers to bring the country to a screeching halt by refusing to work with the president in way, even hn the majority of their party is willing to. By this, they have limited to some extent our ability to even know what quality of president Obama could be.

    Here's an example. The economy has been less than robust in the first term of the Obama presidency. One reason for this is business has been reluctant to plan for growth. Many on the right would say its because businesses cannot afford the Obama tax rate and other regulatory expenses. I think he more honest reason is business had a difficult time predicting future economic conditions during the course of growth because many of the right refused to come to any agreement leaving. Another reason a cording to one of most promimant voices of the far right said with his own mouth, "business was on strike" essentially refusing to do anything that could have helped the economy grow. Injure the American economy on purpose in order to keep the president from succeeding. Fire employees just to increase the unemployment rate in order to help Obama "fail" out of outrage that he got reelected. Their own words. The same exact people who could afford tens of millions of dollars to donate to anti-Obama superpacs so its not like they couldn't afford the salaries.
    That's quite a conspiracy you've got going there.

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mordecai View Post
    (for instance, most Americans poll as wanting to cut the deficit, but the vast majority of Democrats, independents, and Republicans all disagree with cuts to Medicare, Social Security, and the Armed Forces, i.e., give or take 75% of the budget), I've always found that an absolutely laughable criticism directed at just about all politicians.
    Absolutely

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    That third party idea of yours might not be a ban idea because they would tend to run on their avowed ideals. Would you perhaps make an exception for Perot's son?
    I have an affinity to the old man, not his son. I still think NAFTA was a mistake.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I have an affinity to the old man, not his son. I still think NAFTA was a mistake.
    This might the only time I've disagreed with your fine posts. I totally support honest free trade.

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Someone should write a sequel to his book "Audacity of Hope" and call it "Audacity of Ignorance".
    My mom never let anybody get by with making a statement like this. "Someone should". You are someone. Start writing or stop putting obligations on imaginary people that don't care what you think. Someone is you. Start your book tomorrow. Since you noticed the need and vocalized it, it has now become your responsibility to accomplish it. You have 2 years to complete the task otherwise it will never get done.

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