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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    hes not particularly good as president, he just seems to listen to his advisors to much and never takes risks toward things he actually supports.
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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    If you recall, you and I had a conversation recently about how to prop up 3rd party candidates.
    I got you. That may be the only hope.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I got you. That may be the only hope.
    What was your suggestion again about how to help 3rd party candidates? I'm sorry but I can't recall.

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    No, he's an atrocious president that puts agenda first over the nation or the will of the people. He's arrogant, immature, and hasn't done much good for the country.
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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    What was your suggestion again about how to help 3rd party candidates? I'm sorry but I can't recall.
    i have a idea: win at the local level and state level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    i have a idea: win at the local level and state level.
    That would be a good start, and a much more affordable goal. It's still a very difficult road for a 3rd party candidate to compete against the Democrat and Republican money machines though.

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    That would be a good start, and a much more affordable goal. It's still a very difficult road for a 3rd party candidate to compete against the Democrat and Republican money machines though.
    start locally and build a recognizable party.

    and most of all don't compete against the big money political ads, do something original like personally go door to door, neighborhood to neighborhood and campaign in person.
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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    start locally and build a recognizable party.

    and most of all don't compete against the big money political ads, do something original like personally go door to door, neighborhood to neighborhood and campaign in person.
    But the problem is you still can't get to everyone that way. The candidates who do well are the ones who spend the money on commercials and really get their names out there, and those are the candidates backed by the Rep/Dem parties, because they have money to burn, and they can throw fancy parties to get campaign donations and so forth.

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    What was your suggestion again about how to help 3rd party candidates? I'm sorry but I can't recall.
    People have to be willing to vote for them and I think, at least according to the polls the public is ready for a third party. Back in Perot's day only 39% said they would consider voting for a third party candidate, today that number is 81%. Then I think for a third party to become viable it has to be grass roots up. The mistake of my Reform Party is it was top driven. If I was to start one, I would start at the state level, concentrating on state legislatures which write the elections laws for the states. I would try to get a hand in writing those laws for the few few years and then move up to governor and different state wide elections. Doing this would bring I think more bang for the buck. Running a presidential race takes close to a billion dollars these days not counting the funds spent getting on the ballots and lawyers to bring suits against the states or to defend your candidate against the two major parties who will try every trick in the book to keep you off the ballot. It would probably take at least ten years or more, but you need the infrastructure in place to compete nationally.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    People have to be willing to vote for them and I think, at least according to the polls the public is ready for a third party. Back in Perot's day only 39% said they would consider voting for a third party candidate, today that number is 81%. Then I think for a third party to become viable it has to be grass roots up. The mistake of my Reform Party is it was top driven. If I was to start one, I would start at the state level, concentrating on state legislatures which write the elections laws for the states. I would try to get a hand in writing those laws for the few few years and then move up to governor and different state wide elections. Doing this would bring I think more bang for the buck. Running a presidential race takes close to a billion dollars these days not counting the funds spent getting on the ballots and lawyers to bring suits against the states or to defend your candidate against the two major parties who will try every trick in the book to keep you off the ballot. It would probably take at least ten years or more, but you need the infrastructure in place to compete nationally.
    I still think it would be incredibly difficult given their limitations monetarily compared to the major parties. No matter what level of government you're talking about, the Dem and Rep parties are always going to have more money to spend on their campaigns, and as a result it makes it much easier and more efficient to get their names and platforms out there.

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