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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    : And that attitude seems to be more entrenched every day, instead of getting better. Reid using the nuclear option doesn't help relations between the two parties, either. What's wrong with DC?
    Usually a president spends his first 6 years in office trying to get his agenda passed through congress and his last two year defending and protecting what he had gotten passed. If all the bridges to cooperation between the parties hadn't been burned already, that nuclear option Reid pulled burnt the last one. From that day forward, the last 3 years and 2 months of this president's second term will all be spent defending and protecting his one big agenda he got passed, the ACA. He is dead as far as future legislation goes.

    Of course he might have already been dead as far as new legislation and his agenda goes even before he won re-election. Too much demonizing going on here.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Barrack Obama began his presidency with the overwhelming approval of the American people.
    Once I hired workers to fix my house. And pay them forward. Repair is still not finished.
    The American people (very poor and the very rich) paid to Obama a big advance. Rich got back billions of dollars, poor, its free bread. The middle class got nothing.

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I gave up on the two major parties a long, long time ago. Until a political party comes along that is willing to put the good of America over party, that is willing to do what is right for the future of America and to make the hard decisions necessary to guarantee that future today and not just put off those hard decisions or find a way around them until after the next election, I do not see any hope or reason to keep my chin up.
    If you recall, you and I had a conversation recently about how to prop up 3rd party candidates.

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Naturally. What could possibly go wrong?
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Absolutely the worst President in my lifetime and that includes Jimmy Carter and Nixon.
    That was quick, both of these posts were made at 12:40PM.

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Given where we were when Obama took office and the economic situation he was handed, along with the keys to the booze cabinet, I think he certainly has been a good president. I think he could have done better in some aspects of course, but overall I believe we're better off.

    But we'll need to refill the cabinet for the next guy.

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by ToastyOats View Post
    That was quick, both of these posts were made at 12:40PM.
    I thought I waited a dignified time after voting to voice my, ah, comment, which did not denigrate Obama at all. Love the man.

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    If you recall, you and I had a conversation recently about how to prop up 3rd party candidates.
    There is little doubt that they are becoming more and more attractive when we look at what the two major parties are doing, but 3rd party candidates just don't usually have the money backers to compete, plus the deck is stacked against them by rules made by the two major parties! . Ross Perot spent his own money to run in his bid, and even back then, Perot got 19 percent of the popular vote. IMO, if he were to run today, he could win in a landslide. The ironic thing is that he was right in what he said about America losing jobs due to NAFTA. Sad....

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    There is little doubt that they are becoming more and more attractive when we look at what the two major parties are doing, but 3rd party candidates just don't usually have the money backers to compete, plus the deck is stacked against them by rules made by the two major parties! . Ross Perot spent his own money to run in his bid, and even back then, Perot got 19 percent of the popular vote. IMO, if he were to run today, he could win in a landslide. The ironic thing is that he was right in what he said about America losing jobs due to NAFTA. Sad....
    Good evening polgara!

    That's exactly what Perotista and I were discussing. How could the playing field be leveled to make things more equal for 3rd party candidates? My suggestion was to put caps on spending allowed on campaigns. He had another idea, but that would be for him to explain.

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Barrack Obama began his presidency with the overwhelming approval of the American people. Your analogy doesn't work.
    Or you're could be misunderstanding. I'm not sure how you define "good" but I did not mean to imply his popularity had anything to do with it. What's happened is there's an entire industry in America dedicated to seeing the president fail, by their own words. In time they were successful in generating a significant level of strong passions against the president using common propaganda tactics we all learned about in high school. Eventually they were able to get like minded candidates elected in sufficnt numbers who took oaths to support their agenda before they even took the oath to support and defend to constitution. Although they do not represent the majority of elected officials and not even the majority of ther own party, they do have enough numbers to bring the country to a screeching halt by refusing to work with the president in way, even hn the majority of their party is willing to. By this, they have limited to some extent our ability to even know what quality of president Obama could be.

    Here's an example. The economy has been less than robust in the first term of the Obama presidency. One reason for this is business has been reluctant to plan for growth. Many on the right would say its because businesses cannot afford the Obama tax rate and other regulatory expenses. I think he more honest reason is business had a difficult time predicting future economic conditions during the course of growth because many of the right refused to come to any agreement leaving. Another reason a cording to one of most promimant voices of the far right said with his own mouth, "business was on strike" essentially refusing to do anything that could have helped the economy grow. Injure the American economy on purpose in order to keep the president from succeeding. Fire employees just to increase the unemployment rate in order to help Obama "fail" out of outrage that he got reelected. Their own words. The same exact people who could afford tens of millions of dollars to donate to anti-Obama superpacs so its not like they couldn't afford the salaries.
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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    I thought I waited a dignified time after voting to voice my, ah, comment, which did not denigrate Obama at all. Love the man.
    It's funny because there are legitimate criticisms of the president coming from both the left and right, just like with all of them. But nope, someone has to drop their pants, sh-t, and leave without washing their hands.

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