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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I can't really comment on any of those presidents. I barely remember Reagan. But from what you describe, that is exactly how a president should be. It's like we have children in control.
    Do we really have anyone in control? I think Boehner would have liked to work with the president, but he isn't a strong enough leader to control the all the different factions in his party in order to do so. McConnell and Reid are so partisan and put loyalty and the good of their political parties so high above the good of the nation, they leave the nation the 26th priority out of 25. Obama is too busy first blaming Bush and now all republicans for his failure to even attempt to reach across the aisle to find someone to work with.

    Yeah, I guess children is probably the right word.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Do we really have anyone in control? I think Boehner would have liked to work with the president, but he isn't a strong enough leader to control the all the different factions in his party in order to do so. McConnell and Reid are so partisan and put loyalty and the good of their political parties so high above the good of the nation, they leave the nation the 26th priority out of 25. Obama is too busy first blaming Bush and now all republicans for his failure to even attempt to reach across the aisle to find someone to work with.

    Yeah, I guess children is probably the right word.
    I understand that passing laws and such things is not supposed to be an easy process where everyone agrees and that at times some healthy and productive debate and constructive criticism is warranted, but this is just out of control IMO. Like grid lock with just about every issue.

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    It's very discouraging, but I'm keeping my chin up!
    I gave up on the two major parties a long, long time ago. Until a political party comes along that is willing to put the good of America over party, that is willing to do what is right for the future of America and to make the hard decisions necessary to guarantee that future today and not just put off those hard decisions or find a way around them until after the next election, I do not see any hope or reason to keep my chin up.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Actually, I have a pretty good guess where their heads were.
    Yeah, me too.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    I wonder if Obama's Presidency is in some way similar to Lauren Hill's performance at the Apollo. She's a highly talented performer who was unknown at the time. She took the stage and immediately was greeting by boos and jeers from the audience, so much so it drowned out the audience's ability to hear and affected her ability to perform leaving the audience with no idea on whether she was talented or not. When you start out on day one with stated mission of wanting him to fail in a system where co-operation is required across branches and one of which is controlled by those who want him to fail, its one of those questions we might not ever know the answer to.
    Barrack Obama began his presidency with the overwhelming approval of the American people. Your analogy doesn't work.

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I understand that passing laws and such things is not supposed to be an easy process where everyone agrees and that at times some healthy and productive debate and constructive criticism is warranted, but this is just out of control IMO. Like grid lock with just about every issue.
    Compromise, giving a little to take a little. A willingness to take two steps backwards in order to move forward three steps. The realization that one can't expect to get 100% of what they want and the other guy 0%. That in order to move legislation forward, sometimes one has to settle for 60% while giving away 40%. Besides most Americans like incrementalism, they have their routine and massive change upsets their apple cart. But people will accept a little change here and a littler there and over time that massive change takes reality.

    Politics is said to be the art of the possible. Our politicians need to learn what is and what isn't possible and be willing to nibble at times when taking a full bite isn't possible. They need to talk to each other instead of over the head or around each other. They need to listen to each other and need to try to understand each other. This my way or the highway attitude has to go.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I gave up on the two major parties a long, long time ago. Until a political party comes along that is willing to put the good of America over party, that is willing to do what is right for the future of America and to make the hard decisions necessary to guarantee that future today and not just put off those hard decisions or find a way around them until after the next election, I do not see any hope or reason to keep my chin up.
    Why not vote for the best candidate rather than the party? That might help to clear up the mess.

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Why not vote for the best candidate rather than the party? That might help to clear up the mess.
    I do, this is why in 92 I voted Perot and again in 1996. In 2000 it was Browne and Browne again in 2004. In 2008 I determined that was McCain and in 2012 it was Gary Johnson. All in all, out of the 13 presidential elections I have voted in, 6 times I determined the best candidate was from a third party and voted that way. I will not voted for the lesser of two evils or the least worst candidate just to vote for a Republican or a Democrat.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I totally agree, and the only real difference is regarding taxation, which is a pretty big thing I guess. However, people seem to think that raising taxes on a few is going to solve all the problems that our country is facing right now, without realizing that a big part of the problem is that so many are out of the workforce and are contributing very little if at all as far as taxes go, and with all of our entitlement programs and all of the people collecting off them, something's gotta give.
    When Obama publicly stated that he would not discuss entitlement programs as part of the fiscal cliff talks unless he received major concessions from Republicans on taxes, there was an uproar from both sides. With 47 million people...one in every seven people in this country... on food stamps and other government assistance, an increase of more than four million people since 2011, that number is staggering. With talk of cutting the work week from 40 hours down to 29 or 30 hours because of Obamacare, there will be even less revenue flowing into Washington in the form of taxes from the average worker.

    In 2010, the last year that figures were available, the top 10 percent of income earners paid 71 percent of all federal income taxes, the bottom 50 percent paid two percent of income tax, while half of tax filers paid no federal tax at all. How much more should the wealthy be expected to pay in taxes to take of everyone else? Too many in the wagon, with too few pulling the wagon is not a recipe for success.

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Compromise, giving a little to take a little. A willingness to take two steps backwards in order to move forward three steps. The realization that one can't expect to get 100% of what they want and the other guy 0%. That in order to move legislation forward, sometimes one has to settle for 60% while giving away 40%. Besides most Americans like incrementalism, they have their routine and massive change upsets their apple cart. But people will accept a little change here and a littler there and over time that massive change takes reality.

    Politics is said to be the art of the possible. Our politicians need to learn what is and what isn't possible and be willing to nibble at times when taking a full bite isn't possible. They need to talk to each other instead of over the head or around each other. They need to listen to each other and need to try to understand each other. This my way or the highway attitude has to go.
    : And that attitude seems to be more entrenched every day, instead of getting better. Reid using the nuclear option doesn't help relations between the two parties, either. What's wrong with DC?

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