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Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

Is Obama a good president?

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Ooo! Look, the numbers are up to 110 now!
 
ChrisL said:
He isn't average. He sucks. :lol:
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A lot of them do. That's why he's average.

He sucks no worse than Bush 1&2, Carter, Nixon or LBJ.

He sucks more than Clinton, Ike and FDR.

His suck is about on par with Reagan and JFK.

Hence, average.
 
calamity said:
A lot of them do. That's why he's average.

He sucks no worse than Bush 1&2, Carter, Nixon or LBJ.

He sucks more than Clinton, Ike and FDR.

His suck is about on par with Reagan and JFK.

Hence, average.
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I think we should have higher standards.
 
ChrisL said:
Ooo! Look, the numbers are up to 110 now!
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That's why I come here--lots of stupid people to watch make fools of themselves.
 
ChrisL said:
I think we should have higher standards.
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I thought the GOP would win in '12, but then the door on the clown car full of Republican presidential candidates opened, and I knew that wasn't going to come to pass. Sad state of affairs when Romney is the adult on the stage.

It reminds me of '84, when the D couldn't come up with anyone worthy to challenge Reagan. They did it again in '88 when they lost to Bush, running another one of your former Governors--Tank Man.

Btw: that's why I predict a D victory in '16, but probably only for one-term. I suspect the GOP will transform itself by 2020, just like the Ds did by '92.
 
calamity said:
I thought the GOP would win in '12, but then the door on the clown car full of Republican presidential candidates opened, and I knew that wasn't going to come to pass. Sad state of affairs when Romney is the adult on the stage.

It reminds me of '84, when the D couldn't come up with anyone worthy to challenge Reagan. They did it again in '88 when they lost to Bush, running another one of your former Governors--Tank Man.

Btw: that's why I predict a D victory in '16, but probably only for one-term. I suspect the GOP will transform itself by 2020, just like the Ds did by '92.
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I have to agree. The republicans have been putting forth many clownish candidates.
 
calamity said:
I thought the GOP would win in '12, but then the door on the clown car full of Republican presidential candidates opened, and I knew that wasn't going to come to pass. Sad state of affairs when Romney is the adult on the stage.

It reminds me of '84, when the D couldn't come up with anyone worthy to challenge Reagan. They did it again in '88 when they lost to Bush, running another one of your former Governors--Tank Man.

Btw: that's why I predict a D victory in '16, but probably only for one-term. I suspect the GOP will transform itself by 2020, just like the Ds did by '92.
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if the democrats keep shrinking the middle class as they have the last 6 years, the republicans will never win again. The democrats have tilted the elections with all the freebies handed out since Obama was elected.
 
Rocketman said:
if the democrats keep shrinking the middle class as they have the last 6 years, the republicans will never win again. The democrats have tilted the elections with all the freebies handed out since Obama was elected.
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Where do you get this stuff? The guy who handed out massive freebies was Bush 2.
Republicans' "free stuff" gripe is perpetuating a myth - Sun Sentinel
It was the Republican president George W. Bush who expanded eligibility for food stamps in the 2002 farm bill. There were 99 Republican representatives who voted to expand the program further in the 2008 farm bill. And it was that same Republican president who waived one of the work requirements for 32 states in November 2008.

That's why the food stamp program added more recipients under Bush than it did under Obama.

...Since the end of the recession, low-income entitlement spending has been falling. In the next decade, the Congressional Budget Office says it will return to the same level it's been for the last 40 years: a little more than 1 percent of our nation's income. If you exclude health care, where costs are rising for completely separate reasons, the CBO expects low-income entitlement spending to fall below its 40-year average in coming years.
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calamity said:
Where do you get this stuff? The guy who handed out massive freebies was Bush 2.
Republicans' "free stuff" gripe is perpetuating a myth - Sun Sentinel
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LMFAO! some just aren't paying attention:

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ChrisL said:
I have to agree. The republicans have been putting forth many clownish candidates.
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Well, as long as their voters continue buying into the myths and false information being sold them by the con artists getting rich by pumping smoke up their ass, little will change. There's a reason so many voters no longer call themselves Republicans.
 
Rocketman said:
LMFAO! some just aren't paying attention:

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You didn't read the article. Bush made the above graph possible by expanding food stamp elegibility.
 
Grant said:
No you should tell me, Who was doing the politicial pandering and the ones with the actual record. Do you understand what was said, and the positions taken, during those Presidential debates? No offense, but is English your first language?
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Yes I do. There was very little difference between the two. Only Obama had a little more conviction (a low bar).
 
calamity said:
You didn't read the article. Bush made the above graph possible by expanding food stamp elegibility.
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And Obama has taken it to levels never seen before, but that is what liberals do when in office, give the farm away
 
Rocketman said:
And Obama has taken it to levels never seen before, but that is what liberals do when in office, give the farm away
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You must have missed the part in the article showing that spending under Obama's budget is actually going down. Why am I not surprised? Anything that conflicts with RW poutrage gets ignored :roll:

...low-income entitlement spending has been falling. In the next decade, the Congressional Budget Office says it will return to the same level it's been for the last 40 years: a little more than 1 percent of our nation's income. If you exclude health care, where costs are rising for completely separate reasons, the CBO expects low-income entitlement spending to fall below its 40-year average in coming years.

The CBO is making these projections, of course, based on the Obama administration's budget. The president who is supposedly giving away free stuff, it turns out, is actually planning to reduce low-income entitlements.
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Grant said:
A little more conviction? In what area?
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All areas. Romney wanted to be president so badly that he tried to appease the far right, which his hsitory shows he doesn't belong to. You do know he has a record, right?
 
BO is too ideological.. He said he was going to unite the parties... Yeah, in his dreams.
 
Boo Radley said:
All areas. Romney wanted to be president so badly that he tried to appease the far right, which his hsitory shows he doesn't belong to. You do know he has a record, right?
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Appeasing the far right usually loses you a national election (appeasing the far left also usually loses you a national election).

They are too ideological, too. Just like BO and some dems.
 
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calamity said:
Three for sure. I have him tied with Reagan: nothing special, divisive with no real accomplishments, more of a salesman/actor than a real leader, diconnected from day-to-day operations...an endless list of comparrisons actually.

He's the Democrat's Reagan.
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I could agree with this, though for reasons I'll never understood, Reagan is seen as a god by many, despite being thoroughly mediocre.
 
cabse5 said:
Appeasing the far right usually loses you and election. They are too ideological, too. Just like BO and some dems.
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And it did. Though I don't think they believed him. Many just overlooked his record and clung to business acumen. Of course, the country isn't really a business. But few really understand that.
 
calamity said:
Well, as long as their voters continue buying into the myths and false information being sold them by the con artists getting rich by pumping smoke up their ass, little will change. There's a reason so many voters no longer call themselves Republicans.
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I think many Americans are tired of both parties.
 
calamity said:
The proof republicans are full of crap is when they say Obama is worse than Bush Jr. Only a die hard partisan makes that remark with a straight face.
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Well, Republicans have convinced themselves that Reagan was a great president, so anything is possible with them.
 
Reagan is another ideological president that replaced another ideological president: Jimmy Carter, who replaced another president: Tricky Dick Nixon.

The moral of this story? How the current administration performs greatly determines if the same political party stays in the White House, or is sent packing.
 
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