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  • He's average

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  • Wait, Obama is president? Oh my god, what year is this?!

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    Interesting, "well educated and intelligent" BUT which makes him not educated or intelligent for the job, he may be a book worm but has no common sense or has never run a lemonade stand, meaning he is not educated or intelligent to be the president. He is actually and idiot and I would rank him at the bottom of the barrel.
    I have to agree with you that, as an executive, Obama is fairly bad. The smart boss selects highly effective and experienced middle managers, often ''smarter" that they are, telling them his priorities and overall game plan. The job of the boss is then far easier, simply evaluating the progress of his management team, in achieving those goals, and assuring that they have the needed resources to get the job done. Obama seems to simply pick more political "yes men'' (and "yes women") and trusts them to get things done without any further effort on his part.
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    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    Meh, he's good at giving pointless wishy-washy speeches that amount to empty feel good moments. The guy can't communicate policy for ****
    When your policy is federal gov't control of everything and massive amounts of income redistribution it is probably best not to say so directly.
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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Unfortunately, President Obama is cursed by having a lapdog Senate rather than having the Senate being part of a separate branch of government.

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Criticizing someone for being pro-segregation is "playing the race card"?

    Accusations of "playing the race card" are little more than a cheap tactic to avoid talking about race when, in the case of segregation and Nixon, it's clearly relevant.
    Oh, is that it?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    I'm European, and I don't like him!

    He doesn't like us either. :/

    Well, whatever, we don't need him. Bring on the next guy! The next guy who presumably wants stronger trade relations with America's strongest allies.

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Well I can top that, I can remember quite well 12 of the 13 presidents who have lived in the White House since the start of WWII.

    I was born in 1943 and I really don't remember FDR, but I do remember Truman and every president since him quite well. It's too soon to evaluate either Obama or G.W. Bush properly right now, but I am going to guess that in the future Obama will be somewhere in the lower middle of the rankings and Bush will be mighty close to the bottom.

    Of course that's just my guess based on how things look right now.

    Obama might sink or rise and so might Bush.

    We'll just have to wait and see.
    Yeah, when Truman left office he was at 38% approval rating and ranked down near the bottom, now he seems to make everyone's top ten. Near great. No one really knows, but historians have said in order to rank a president accurately they have to be out of office for 20 years. This gives them a chance to see how their policies effected the country and also gives time for the heavy partisanship to die down.

    I still run across those highly partisan's who place FDR way down on the bottom below such greats as Harding, Coolidge and Grant. Each of rates presidents differently and have different things that are important to them as to what they do or don't do. I do think Obama will probably end up being ranked around the top of the bottom third and Bush the second a little lower.

    I do know IKE is my number one of the 11 I remember and I have always ranked JFK as number two. But I think with JFK it was more for what might have been than what really was. But for me, that is just the way it is.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Yeah, when Truman left office he was at 38% approval rating and ranked down near the bottom, now he seems to make everyone's top ten. Near great. No one really knows, but
    historians have said in order to rank a president accurately they have to be out of office for 20 years.
    This gives them a chance to see how their policies effected the country and also gives time for the heavy partisanship to die down.

    I still run across those highly partisan's who place FDR way down on the bottom below such greats as Harding, Coolidge and Grant. Each of rates presidents differently and have different things that are important to them as to what they do or don't do. I do think Obama will probably end up being ranked around the top of the bottom third and Bush the second a little lower.

    I do know IKE is my number one of the 11 I remember and I have always ranked JFK as number two. But I think with JFK it was more for what might have been than what really was. But for me, that is just the way it is.
    Can we start now?

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Can we start now?
    Be my guest.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    I believe Obama's legacy will not be viewed favorably by the majority.

    Someone should write a sequel to his book "Audacity of Hope" and call it "Audacity of Ignorance". I have never seen a president in my lifetime nor the history of presidents past that claimed ignorance to so many things that occurred during his time in office. He did not know anything about Fast and Furious, or Benghazi, or the IRS targeting conservative groups, or his so called key legislation, Obamacare, was not ready for prime time.

    He will be remembered for his desire to use drones on American citizens, fire first, ask questions later. His foreign policy starting from 2009 going to foreign countries apologizing for the United States and shafting our few friends in the region in favor of groups our country lists as terrorists. He will be remembered for wanting to attack Syria with missles killing even more people than Assad had accomplished instead of reaching out to all the refugees that had fled to countries like Jordan, Turkey with an all out humanitarian effort extending a helping hand and building relationships with people that could change the thinking of many who have been taught to hate the United States.

    He will be remembered for his feckless spending, the 800 billion stimulus that did not go to shovel ready jobs. He will be remembered not willing to cut spending and produce a balanced budget year after year significantly adding to our national debt. He will be remembered for expanding government involvement in our economy attacking capitalism by replacing it with more corporatism. Whether it be corporate or entitlement programs, he will be remembered as the Welfare President.

    He will be remembered for his cronyism for all the special favors to unions, environmentalists, and his Cabinet that was stacked with appointees awarded for political service.

    He will be remembered by those who believe in the rule of law as excessively violating his oath to uphold the Constitution.

    ◾Used Executive Privilege in regards to Fast & Furious gun running scandal. When Government misconduct is the concern Executive privilege is negated.
    ◾23 Executive Orders on gun control – infringement of the 2nd Amendment
    ◾Executive Order bypassing Congress on immigration – Article 1 Section 1, ALL Legislative power held by Congress
    ◾NDAA – Section 1021. Due process Rights negated. Violation of 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th Amendments.
    ◾Executive Order 13603 NDRP – Government can seize anything
    ◾Executive Order 13524 – Gives INTERPOL jurisdiction on American soil beyond law enforcement agencies, including the FBI.
    ◾Executive Order 13636 Infrastructure Cybersecurity – Bypassing Congress Article 1 Section 1, ALL Legislative power held by Congress
    ◾Signed into law the establishment of NO Free Speech zones – noncompliance is a felony. Violation of 1st Amendment.
    ◾Attempt to tax political contributions – 1st Amendment
    ◾DOMA Law – Obama directed DOJ to ignore the Constitution and separation of powers and not enforce the law.
    ◾Dodd-Frank – Due process and separation of powers. Consumer Financial Protection Bureau writing and interpreting law. Article. I. Section. 1
    ◾Drone strikes on American Citizens – 5th Amendment Due process Rights negated
    ◾Bypassed Congress and gave EPA power to advance Cap-n-Trade
    ◾Attempt for Graphic tobacco warnings (under appeal) – 1st Amendment
    ◾Four Exec. appointments – Senate was NOT in recess (Court has ruled unconstitutional yet the appointees still remain)
    ◾Appointing agency czars without the “advice and consent of the Senate.” Violation of Article II, Section 2
    ◾Obama took Chairmanship of UN Security Council – Violation of Section 9.
    ◾Obamacare (ACA) mandate – SCOTUS had to make it a tax because there is no Constitutional authority for Congress to force Americans to engage in commerce.
    ◾Contraceptive, abortifacients mandate violation of First Ammendment
    ◾Healthcare waivers – No president has dispensing powers
    ◾Refuses to acknowledge state’s 10th Amendment rights to nullify Obamacare
    ◾Going after states (AZ lawsuit) for upholding Federal law (immigration) -10th Amendment.
    ◾Chrysler Bailout -TARP – violated creditors rights and bankruptcy law, as well as Takings and Due Process Clauses – 5th Amendment (G.W. Bush also illegally used TARP funds for bailouts)
    ◾The Independent Payment Advisory Board (appointees by the president). Any decisions by IPAB will instantly become law starting in 2014 – Separation of Powers, Article 1 Section 1.
    ◾Congress did not approve Obama’s war in Libya. Article I, Section 8, First illegal war U.S. has engaged in. Impeachable under Article II, Section 4.
    ◾Obama falsely claims UN can usurp Congressional war powers.
    ◾Obama has acted outside the constitutional power given him – this in itself is unconstitutional.
    ◾With the approval of Obama, the NSA and the FBI are tapping directly into the servers of 9 internet companies to gain access to emails, video/audio, photos, documents, etc. This program is code named PRISM. NSA also collecting data on all phone calls in U.S. – Violation of 4th Amendment.
    ◾Plans to sign U.N. Firearms treaty – 2nd Amendment.
    ◾The Senate/Obama immigration bill (approved by both) raises revenue – Section 7. All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives;
    ◾Obama refuses to uphold the Business Mandate Law (ACA) for a year. President does not have that authority – Article. I. Section. 1. All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States. The president ”shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed” -Article II, Section 3.
    I wuz gonna say the same thing but without all the documentation you provided. Yours is better. Thank you.

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    re: Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Be my guest.
    I wish it was that easy.
    I'm afraid he feels he has an agenda to keep and miles to go before he sleeps.

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