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Would you support THIS voter ID law described in OP?

Would you support THIS voter ID law described in OP?

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polgara said:
:agree: with everything you said. I realize that there may be good reasons for people to request an absentee ballot---business travel, planned hospital procedures, family vacations and so forth---but three weeks for early voting? C'mon, no one is that damn busy! At most, maybe one week could be allowed. We used to have one day to vote...Election Day...for year and years, and I don't recall problems with people being "disenfranchised," back then. This current trend to keep on extending the voting times is just :bs: in my opinion! If there was no early voting, there would be no problem with fraud, as you pointed out.
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Plus the fact early voting isn't causing more people to vote, if when we only had one day to vote the percentage of the electorate who were voting was in the lower 60% range, how come with all this early voting and making it supposedly easier to vote, the percentages are now in the lower 50% range. Seems we have gone in the opposite direction.
 
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If I were Emperor of the country, I'd have the following system in place:


#1 Any eligible person can register prior to the election but not within 30 days of the election for which they are registering. Earlier registration is permitted based on age and residency requirements being met by the day of the ballot casting.

#2 At the time of registration the individual must present proof of identity and eligibility to vote (i.e. citizenship).

#3 Between registration and being eligible to vote the Registrar will ensure the individual is (a) a citizen, and (b) that their right to vote has not be removed by legal action (or has been restored as the case may be).

#4 Permissible ID's must be issued under State authority and will show "Vote: Yes" or "Vote: No". (No Illegal Alien should, IMHO, eligible for a state issued ID. Legal residence are also eligible to drive or have need for a non-driving ID - therefore the ID should clearly indicate voter eligibility.)

#5 The State will issue both Driver Licenses and non-Driving ID at their normal cost schedule. If an ID is needed for another purpose and has a cost, then normal cost factors apply. If the individual is indigent and cannot afford one, then a non-Driving ID will be issued that will clearly indicate (through text, color, etc.) "This ID is election ballot casting only and is not valid for any other purpose." The individual is then required to sign a statement of understanding regarding the use and law for that ID. A companion law would then be passed making the use (or acceptance) of the Voter Only ID as misdemeanor offense punishable by a $500 fine for the User and the Individual accepting such an ID for other than voting purposes.

#6 Most states already use a "Motor/Voter" type of system. States already have to ability to access driving records from other states through an exchange process. Added to this would be that when an individual moves and they register in a new location, the registration at their previous location is updated to "Invalid".

#7 Each State will establish formal procedures to deal with the (extremely rare) cases of a person born a citizen yet who is unable to obtain a valid birth certificate (as in one does not exist - not to be confused with someone that waits until the last minute and doesn't have one on hand).

#8 To alleviate the cost of obtaining a birth certificate and individual can order one of two types of certificates: (a) general use, or (b) voter only. If the individual orders a general use birth certificate they can use it for whatever purposes they desire (drivers license, employment, passports, etc.) with no restrictions. If used for voter registration the registrar examines (and copies if needed) the birth certificate and the original is returned to the individual. However a "Voter Only" birth certificate can only be used for registration purposes. Again a companion law would fine individuals using and/or accepting such birth certificates for other purposes. Once the "Voter Only" certificate is presented to the registrar, the eligibility is validated and the registrar retains the certificate for destruction. States would accept reciprocity (just as they do now with Drivers Licenses and non-Driving ID's. If an individual has passed the citizenship check and has an ID from State A showing eligibility to vote, then there is no need to get another Voter Only birth certificate, it's use in the previous state to generate the ID is recognized.​



That's what I can think of off the top of my head. :)



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AGENT J said:
The ID is free and easily and readily obtainable.
It can be obtain where all other IDs can DMV, Passport, court house for weapons permits etc and at the polling places at certain times.

Also the VOTING ID isnt required to vote other picture IDs are also acceptable, Drivers license, Passport, military ID etc.

as always if theres a problem with ID you still get to vote special ballot and will have a time frame to work it out.

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I would definitely support it under these conditions.
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I would agree with this.
 
I don't think any of us can really give an informed opinion on this subject. The most common answer in most of these threads is incredulity that anyone could live without ID. Yet clearly people do. I recognize how much my life would be different without one, because I a) drive a car and b) have to go into buildings with security. So, rather than hear plans from among ourselves, I wouldn't support any ID plan without first hearing from those who don't have them. Any plan would have to address their concerns and the reasons why they don't have ID.
 
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