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    Re: Would you support THIS voter ID law described in OP?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    Only citizens should vote. Prove it. A state picture id is easy to get and cheap. Get one. Prove who you are to vote.

    Voter ID laws being racist imply that minorities aren't smart enough to get an ID. That is racist in itself. Minorities are just as capable as anyone to get identification. We need identification to buy cigarettes, beer and to drive. Certainly voting is as important as cigarettes and beer, well, cigarettes.
    I have no problems with the Georgia photo ID law, I just think it is unique as it was never challenged and as far as I know, every other southern states Photo ID law was and taken to court.
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    Re: Would you support THIS voter ID law described in OP?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    IN pa for decades ive have always been asked for ID to vote, im not sure what happens when you dont have it but im always asked. Then they look at it, scroll down the registered voters list , verify and mark me as voted.


    Now if something different happens else where maybe i would change my mind on this.
    In NJ you're required to mail in a paper Voter Registration form.

    On that form you provide your DL# or last four of SS# along with a mailing address.

    I imagine they do some sort of checking to ensure that everything is on the up and up, I guess that the DL# or SS# you provide matches your name, but I don't know how much more they could do.

    You're also required to sign the form.

    When you show up on election day at your polling place the poll workers have a book of registered voters and each entry includes the signature you used on your Voter Registration form.

    You sign the book to indicate thhat you're there to vote.

    They also have a separate book of, I guess they're like "voting tickets" or something.

    It's a perforated card two-part card. You sign one half of the card and the poll worker tears it in half and checks your signature against the signature in the book, or at least they could if they wanted to, I've never really paid attention to make sure that they do. I should add, I have a pretty simple but distinct signature (essentially my cursive initials) and it wouldn't take a great deal of scrutiny to compare them.

    Anyhow, the poll worker at the table keeps the half of the card that you sign and hands you the other half.

    You walk over to a voting booth and hand the attendant there the other half of the card. That attendant drops that half in a bin, resets the booth, and allows you to enter.

    You're not asked for ID at any point in the process.
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    Re: Would you support THIS voter ID law described in OP?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Seems we were a bit behind PA down here. But based on each individuals experiences that is where opinions are drawn. Nothing wrong with that. Georgia is one southern state where its ID law was never challenged. That in itself makes it unique.
    it was never law back then but ID was just asked for and i never thought anything of it
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    Re: Would you support THIS voter ID law described in OP?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    The ID is free and easily and readily obtainable.
    It can be obtain where all other IDs can DMV, Passport, court house for weapons permits etc and at the polling places at certain times.

    Also the VOTING ID isnt required to vote other picture IDs are also acceptable, Drivers license, Passport, military ID etc.

    as always if theres a problem with ID you still get to vote special ballot and will have a time frame to work it out.

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    I would definitely support it under these conditions.
    As long as the the ID was government issues, I'm cool with this. Mainly I think it's important to have a system that once a vote is cast, can't be recast some where else. The reason for the Voter ID would be you swipe it, get your vote, and your done. If that system could be used with other ID (say govenment ones) then it's cool with me.

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    Re: Would you support THIS voter ID law described in OP?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    why? drivers licences and renew carry permits are issued on the spot so i dont see it being far fetched at all

    but i do agree it doesn't HAVE to be done if other IDs are acceptable
    not in my state they are not. State ID's are mailed to the address of record about two weeks after your visit to the DMV.

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    Re: Would you support THIS voter ID law described in OP?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    1.)For a long time in my state they just asked for your name and party affiliation
    2.) they pulled out a computer print out with names look for your name and have you sign next to it.
    3.) No ID or even a voter registration card was asked for.
    4.) So if someone knew what elections certian voters voted in and didn't vote in then someone could litterally walk in claim to be that person,forge their signature and no one would be the wiser.
    5.) Eventually we enacted voter id laws. In my state to get a voter registration card is still a joke.You just fill out a form,mail it in and then a week or two later you have a voter ID. Many employers use this as ID.
    6.)The thing is many people do not vote in every election. Generally in presidential elections most registered voters in a city will vote, but if its just a state election then there is less registered voters from that same city voting and if its just a mayoral election then even less registered voters from that same city will vote. Its like a funnel.I think on top of a photo ID and voter registration card the election board should send you a letter informing you that you have voted this way voters will know if someone someone voted for them or not.
    1.) party affliation? now that weird, heck in PA as an independent i cant even vote sometimes unless i go on line and switch which is easy but they never ask that
    2.) yeah i forgot the sign part we do that here too
    3.) ID was always asked for but it wasnt law. As far as the cards thats never been asked for but if you werent registered then you werent on the list anyway
    4.) which is a huge risk and very hard to pull off unless one is certain.
    5.) does seem a little lax.
    6.) I like that idea, about being notifed you voted, i think its really good actually, very simple.
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    Re: Would you support THIS voter ID law described in OP?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    The problem with accepting multiple (non mutually exclusive) IDs is that without verification one can hold several of them, possibly in different districts/states, and vote multiple times "legally", thus defeating the purpose entirely.
    no problem with that here in PA because a registered voter has to vote at his polling place and his polling place is assigned to him and to be registered info must check out.
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    Re: Would you support THIS voter ID law described in OP?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    not in my state they are not. State ID's are mailed to the address of record about two weeks after your visit to the DMV.
    that fine just pointing out the technology and ability is very simple and already done in many places
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    Re: Would you support THIS voter ID law described in OP?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    no problem with that here in PA because a registered voter has to vote at his polling place and his polling place is assigned to him and to be registered info must check out.
    There are not two John Smith's with different addresses? Do they check the photo's to see if they match? Can you not vote absentee while on vacation? Can you not drive to NY, NJ, MD, OH, WV or DE in a just few hours?
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    Re: Would you support THIS voter ID law described in OP?

    Modern computer networks being what they are, they should just have a laptop and pull up a picture of you from the DMV. In fact, all you need is for you to give permission to the DMV next time you renew your license to share your photo with county voting authorities (or whoever does it). You show up, tell them who you are, they can pull up your picture and address on the laptop, and you're good to go. Then you can vote without an ID. I'd also do the same for anybody living in section 8 housing - we take your picture and we'll share it with voting authorities. ICE can share it when you become a citizen if you're naturalized. I mean, it's the 21st Century, no need for paper here.

    In fact, you shouldn't even really need all that. Keep your records updated and scan a fingerprint when you go to vote. It's a lot harder to fake a fingerprint than it is to fake an ID, and even poor people have fingerprints!


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