View Poll Results: Should Every Nation Think Itself Exceptional?

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  • Yes, of course, that's patriotism!

    10 28.57%
  • It depends -- maybe the middle powers, like Italy or Egypt.

    0 0%
  • No, only the great nations really have a claim to exceptionalism.

    1 2.86%
  • No nation should think they're exceptional, it's nationalistic and dangerous.

    17 48.57%
  • Each nation should think itself exceptional for some things, but not for everything.

    7 20.00%
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Thread: Should Every Country Think It Is Exceptional?

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    Re: Should Every Country Think It Is Exceptional?

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    Re: Should Every Country Think It Is Exceptional?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I find BC people to be the least humble. Pretentious hippy ****s for the most part. Then again, I've only been to the Van area.
    Sounds about right to me.

    Lived in Van 2 years, really didn't like it.

    My favourite part of Canada is the East Coast.

    Good people out there.

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    Re: Should Every Country Think It Is Exceptional?

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    Re: Should Every Country Think It Is Exceptional?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Agreed. I've spent time in NB and NS. They're great places. People are extremely homely - a bit two faced - but extremely nice. It's a shame what's happened to that area in the last 50 or so years.
    LOL, did you mean "People are extremely homely" in the British sense of plain or ordinary but pleasant - or in the American sense of 'lacking in physical attractiveness; not beautiful; unattractive'?

    But to return to the topic - exceptional is strictly defined as 'being an exception' or 'uncommon'. But in common usage it almost always means being well above average, and extraordinary in that respect.

    If one genuinely thinks this of one's own society - common sense (not to mention good manners) dictates that one keeps this to oneself. If for no better reason than that there is no such animal as the best country in the world, and it is seldom gratifying to be considered a self-aggrandising loony by one's peers.
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    Re: Should Every Country Think It Is Exceptional?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ad_Captandum View Post
    Hello everyone!

    It's par for the course that big and powerful countries think they're exceptional. Britain, France, America, Russia, Germany, China, Japan, and other powerful and important nations all think they're the best.

    But what about Albania? What about Zimbabwe? Or Honduras, or Laos?

    Should these nations, like the great powers, think of themselves as exceptional, a cut above the rest?

    Why, or why not?
    Thinking you're exceptional is what leads to starting wars, bombing whoever the **** you want, imprisoning non-citizens without trial, and a general disgust in the international community for you.

    The US is a great nation, but we're not so exceptional that we can just **** over whoever we want for any reason we want. We need to learn to work with the other human beings who occupy this planet with us.

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    I voted #4.

    Exceptionalisim in respect to geopolitics is something very different than thinking your country produces exceptionally beautiful women or is exceptionally clean.

    It means that your country is so far ahead of/above the rest that the normal rules don't apply, it means that the international community should make exceptions for you because of your greatness.

    I don't think such inflated opinions of the national self hold a great deal of water.

    We've all seen (at least in a history book) what happens when a great nation begins to consider itself exceptional and starts running roughshod over the community of nations.

    In a nutshell, the international community bands together, firebombs the upstart's cities, and occupies that nation for 40 or 50 years.

    No single part is as great as the whole.

    Not even the United States.
    You said what I was trying to say, but better.
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    Re: Should Every Country Think It Is Exceptional?

    Well, America is exceptional at imprisoning its own citizens. We are the tops in that. We are also good in the Entertainment Industry if you allow the vapid pap that runs as entertainment.

    Also where it comes to Education at the College or higher level there is no other place that has as many virtually worthless degrees than here. And I am not talking about basket-weaving either. I'm talking about:

    English Lit (A classic Von-Newman type of reproduction),
    Fine Arts (If you were any good wouldn't you go to an Academy instead?),
    Law (There are already too many lawyers and unless you have connections or are really good then forget it.),
    Education (Just forget it. No one respects teachers and you will never get to use your innate abilities to do the job as long as the government is in control of it.),
    History related (Unless your goal is to teach history or do research, real research which cannot be found readily in sources, do not bother),
    which leads to Ethnic Studies ( You must have a dead certain plan to put this to use or you are fretting away both your time and money),
    and Philosophy (Look, unless you think that you would be able to contribute to the work of Philosophy, then leave it to the professionals since you won't become one.)

    America might have the most variety of foods but most are an exception rather than the rule.

    I suppose one area that Americans are most noted for is the ability to overcome obstacles in our way though the increased government assistances are weakening that over time.
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    Re: Should Every Country Think It Is Exceptional?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ad_Captandum View Post
    But what about Albania? What about Zimbabwe? Or Honduras, or Laos?

    Should these nations, like the great powers, think of themselves as exceptional, a cut above the rest?
    No. They're all ****.

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    Re: Should Every Country Think It Is Exceptional?

    Exceptionalism is idiotic and stupid. Jingoism and nationalism does no one any good. Every country has their areas which they strive in and areas which the suck at. After all we are simply members of earth and we are divided by class and imaginary lines in the dirt/sand.


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    Re: Should Every Country Think It Is Exceptional?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chocolate View Post
    an interesting change that's for sure but I love this country I even saw my first eagle a couple of weeks ago I grew up being told your national bird was a rooster
    I live in Canada, but I appreciate your thoughts.
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