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Thread: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    I never said I wasn't willing to bear the consequences.



    Good, because anyone who violates U.S. law has to pay the consequences.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I highly doubt the majority of the population votes at all. Actually, I know they don't. I also don't care what the majority of the population votes for and regardless of what they do I will still have my own mind and my own opinion on matters.

    Then let the government prove themselves unworthy by compelling it's citizens to die for them. It only provides me assistance in my case against them.
    No, it doesn't provide you with anything other than facing the consequences. Either you face them or comply. Easy to talk about enduring jail time right up until it's your current reality.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I highly doubt the majority of the population votes at all. Actually, I know they don't. I also don't care what the majority of the population votes for and regardless of what they do I will still have my own mind and my own opinion on matters.



    Then let the government prove themselves unworthy by compelling it's citizens to die for them. It only provides me assistance in my case against them.



    If you don't respond to a draft call-up notice you'll be fighting your case from prison.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No, it doesn't provide you with anything other than facing the consequences. Either you face them or comply. Easy to talk about enduring jail time right up until it's your current reality.
    Jail doesn't scare me and by all accounts robbing me of my liberty because I refuse to die for you only provides me evidence of your unworthiness.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I never accepted that premise. It makes little sense to me to say I have a responsibility to die for people that I never agreed to be part of.
    Yes you have, you agreed with your feet. As long as you remain a US citizen and selective service remains the law you accept that responsibility. You are free to move and renounce your citizenship. However, chances are good your new host country will have the same or similar law.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I never accepted that premise. It makes little sense to me to say I have a responsibility to die for people that I never agreed to be part of.
    Well there is some form of consent there as long as you have US citizenship.
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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Lots of them did not as well.



    If you want to take a chance that you won't end up in prison, go for it.

    As I have said you will get no sympathy from me.

    I'm one of the people who would turn you in.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Yes you have, you agreed with your feet. As long as you remain a US citizen and selective service remains the law you accept that responsibility. You are free to move and renounce your citizenship. However, chances are good your new host country will have the same or similar law.
    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Well there is some form of consent there as long as you have US citizenship.
    No, simply living in a country doesn't mean you consent to do business with any other person or body of persons. It usually just means you were born and the rules of the governance of that land were forced on you. There is no consent given to that governance nor did that governance ask for it. Declaring that I must move or renounce my citizenship to not be under their command only proves my point.

    Being born doesn't mean that I agreed to anything, and in fact, I never even agreed to be born in the first place.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    If you want to take a chance that you won't end up in prison, go for it.

    As I have said you will get no sympathy from me.

    I'm one of the people who would turn you in.
    If the country is under attack and I feel I can get away there is little doubt I will take it. There is nothing here worth fighting for honestly.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    No, simply living in a country doesn't mean you consent to do business with any other person or body of persons. It usually just means you were born and the rules of the governance of that land were forced on you. There is no consent given to that governance nor did that governance ask for it. Declaring that I must move or renounce my citizenship to not be under their command only proves my point.

    Being born doesn't mean that I agreed to anything, and in fact, I never even agreed to be born in the first place.
    Silly argument that doesn't meet the reality that you make the choice to stay after the age of adulthood is reached. The fact that you're still here, still have not renounced citizenship means you assent to that governance.

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