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Thread: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    This came up in another thread. Do you believe that a country was the right to draft it's citizens into it's armed forces during a time of war.

    I personally believed that it does if that country is going to survive.




    Added in:

    In regards to the United States I'm talking about an official declaration of war being declared.
    You should not have to draft..............You should volunteer.
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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    No. A war that requires a draft is not a war worth fighting. Nobody should be coercively forced into killing other human beings at the behest of their government. If people have a right to self-ownership and control over their bodies, then they have a right to refuse to serve in the military.
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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    If a country, facing actual, dire peril from enemies foreign or domestic, can't field an army of volunteers ready, able and WANTING to defend her....








    What good is a draft gonna do?
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Let me put it to you this way....if China invaded tomorrow, and our regulars weren't enough, and Obama or whoever went on the tube and we need more soldiers, it's join or learn Chinese, I'd sign up for a rifle. And due to my ear, I'm not even ELIGABLE for military service, let alone a draft.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakryte View Post
    No. A war that requires a draft is not a war worth fighting. Nobody should be coercively forced into killing other human beings at the behest of their government. If people have a right to self-ownership and control over their bodies, then they have a right to refuse to serve in the military.
    I wanted to repost my response from earlier: Generally I oppose conscription and mandatory service. Sovereignty of our own bodies should be a founding pillar of our conception of civil rights, I can't think of many rights that are more crucial. However under certain circumstances I'm willing to play the hypocrite and acknowledge that I'm being one. I'm willing to embrace a violation of your rights in the pursuit of a specific utilitarian goal--namely the preservation of the country that I live and prosper in and to accelerate the end of existential conflicts that challenge it. Conscription should be one of the gravest and little used powers a democracy exercises. I'm completely opposed to its casual use as a means of inculcating 'civic virtue'.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    It may depend on the honor. The defense of the State must be honorable.
    No, it doesn't depend on the honor-- if it is forced upon you against your will, it is not an honor.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    If a country, facing actual, dire peril from enemies foreign or domestic, can't field an army of volunteers ready, able and WANTING to defend her....








    What good is a draft gonna do?
    War and dying are frightening. Joining the military entails a massive disruption to your life. Even if you agree with the decision to engage in a conflict you may not be motivated to join the military. Look at the Civil War or the Second World War as examples of that. If left voluntary numbers would have flagged and as casualties mounted recruitment would likely have suffered (we know this occurred at times during the Civil War). The decision to use conscription is a mechanism for avoiding those problems and rapidly expanding your manpower pool for the purposes of war. I believe it is sometimes necessary for set periods of time.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    Why do you believe that? Do you not believe that there is honor, to serve?
    If I considered serving honorable I would have already served.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    War and dying are frightening. Joining the military entails a massive disruption to your life. Even if you agree with the decision to engage in a conflict you may not be motivated to join the military. Look at the Civil War or the Second World War as examples of that. If left voluntary numbers would have flagged and as casualties mounted recruitment would likely have suffered (we know this occurred at times during the Civil War). The decision to use conscription is a mechanism for avoiding those problems and rapidly expanding your manpower pool for the purposes of war. I believe it is sometimes necessary for set periods of time.
    The civil war is not a good example, lol. As for WW2, I believe more volunteered than were drafted, but I'm not 100% on that.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    If I considered serving honorable I would have already served.
    Whereas, I was happy to volunteer and bitterly disappointed when denied the opportunity.

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