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Thread: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Gender equality in the military is just a political tool and as the draft rules and physical standards show there is no seriousness behind it.


    Do not belittle the many women who have already come home in body bags or with missing limbs...

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I have no obligation towards those that came before me and decided to fight for causes they found agreeable nor do I have an obligation towards the country as a whole that i never offered my consent to be part of. Just as the founders of this country swore no alliance to the king of england, I swore no alliance to the rulers of this land. Just as the founders had no obligation to fight for the causes of those that came before them, I have no obligation to fight for the causes of those that came before me. Just as those that came before me had the right to decide on their own free will what causes they were wiling to fight for, I have the right to decide on causes I am willing to fight for. Just because I was born under the rule of a body of people that wish to maintain their rule does not mean I'm obligated to assist them in their cause and grant them their desires. Just because I was born in a community of men, women and children in a certain land does not mean that I'm obligated to protect them or their property and die for their causes.


    I would bet that you are not a real popular guy...

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    This came up in another thread. Do you believe that a country was the right to draft it's citizens into it's armed forces during a time of war.

    I personally believed that it does if that country is going to survive.


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    In regards to the United States I'm talking about an official declaration of war being declared.
    I would agree with you in principal. There are a few touchy questions though. The consciences objection thing is rather intractable. But to do away with that opt out is not viable in a country like the USA.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    I would bet that you are not a real popular guy...
    On the other hand it is the sign of a healthy liberal society that allows someone to talk like that.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I don't even know where I would get one of those.
    Traitors get them for free.
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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    I would not volunteer for an army with conscripts. They are unreliable; they are infamous for breaking rank, allowing lines to fall and retreating. The unit I served with has always been volunteers only.

    I would not support a draft, regardless of circumstance. Either the will to win exists, or it doesn't. I believe that holds true for individuals as well as units and countries.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    First, I did serve, and for a very long time, as enlisted and officer in the infantry of the United States Army. I do not believe in the draft, for two reasons. One, our Army is of a much higher caliber war fighting capability as a professional, volunteer force than at any time in the past when it relied on the draft. That is true in any organizational behavior. People perform a lot better when they want to be there.

    Two, I just don't believe in the draft. I don't believe the government has any business telling its citizens who its enemies are, pulling them off their farms or out of their homes, then sending them here and there to kill people that have never done them any harm at all. Those old boogeyman stories about "well, if we don't go and fight the Hun over there, then he'll be over here in no time," are tactics of the past when people could easily be boondoggled.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by JJB3333 View Post
    I don't like the idea, but i accept that it is sometimes necessary. When the freedom and protection of the country as a whole depends on the numbers defending it, then in the name of its people and their continued safety, drafting could be considered ok
    I'm wondering: Will the draft include females? What will the cut off age be? Will being a college student exempt you from being drafted?
    "The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice"---Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    Someone in your family certainly did, unless you are Native American, and you are bound by their choice...Otherwise, Uncle Fidel would gladly offer you a new home...
    It really doesn't make a difference if they consented or not as that means nothing to mine.

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    Do not belittle the many women who have already come home in body bags or with missing limbs...
    I don't happen to find that telling the truth of a political agenda is belittling those that fall at its feet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    I would bet that you are not a real popular guy...
    I don't doubt many people don't care for my flat out rejection of falsehoods they try to push on me.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by Amanda1858 View Post
    I'm wondering: Will the draft include females? What will the cut off age be? Will being a college student exempt you from being drafted?
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