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Thread: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    A draft is probably not necessary when the war is for a good reason such as actually defending the country.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    When it comes to treason, even if only perceived the government has granted themselves the power to make you go away. So you may count it as a moral victory if it ever came to that, but they are going to win.
    I'm not sure how it works, but if I'm offered an opening statement I will take the chance to expose the invalidity of their claims against me on the grounds that citizens do not consent to their governance and no pledges that are made during a normal citizens time are either free of coercion or ones that the state can prove have taken place. I will follow that up by showing that any pledges made after I was drafted were not honest pledges and ones that the state forced on me to make and therefore not bidding. I have no doubt they will ignore me, but I figure if anyone is listening it will cause them to think of the injustice taking place at least for a moment.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post
    Denying you're a traitor is a textbook move for traitors.
    Only in the eyes of a corrupt state will they consider me a traitor. In such a situation the only ones that are traitors is the state.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Only in the eyes of a corrupt state will they consider me a traitor. In such a situation the only ones that are traitors is the state.

    Blaming their country is what traitors do best.
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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post
    Blaming their country is what traitors do best.
    Their declaration of me as a traitor is one they made up out of thin air and knowing they will never defend their declaration, as they have never done so against anyone they declared it against, there is little doubt they will not dare explain themselves here either. They will simply declare me as a traitor and if I'm caught never dare explain how a man that was drafted could be traitor and they themselves not one.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Only in the eyes of a corrupt state will they consider me a traitor. In such a situation the only ones that are traitors is the state.
    I didnt read back far enough to see what you might be considered a traitor for, I am just speaking in general terms. Our government has given itself the power to lock up anyone they decide to consider a traitor.
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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    I didnt read back far enough to see what you might be considered a traitor for, I am just speaking in general terms. Our government has given itself the power to lock up anyone they decide to consider a traitor.
    Defecting to the enemy after drafted is one such thing they could consider me a traitor for. I am aware the state will declare me as such and I know I can not win if caught, but I'm confident that no one can ever prove me as a traitor. The truth of the matter is the state has no way to prove the validity of their case and they are all to aware of it.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Defecting to the enemy after drafted is one such thing they could consider me a traitor for. I am aware the state will declare me as such and I know I can not win if caught, but I'm confident that no one can ever prove me as a traitor. The truth of the matter is the state has no way to prove the validity of their case and they are all to aware of it.
    but the way the laws are set up, they don't have to prove it. They just have to accuse you of it and detain you indefinitely for national security. Again I'm not calling you a traitor.
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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    but the way the laws are set up, they don't have to prove it. They just have to accuse you of it and detain you indefinitely for national security. Again I'm not calling you a traitor.
    That would appear to only show they are more corrupt then I imagined.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Their declaration of me as a traitor is one they made up out of thin air and knowing they will never defend their declaration, as they have never done so against anyone they declared it against, there is little doubt they will not dare explain themselves here either. They will simply declare me as a traitor and if I'm caught never dare explain how a man that was drafted could be traitor and they themselves not one.
    You're just reading out of the traitor handbook now, aren't you?
    "Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough."
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