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Thread: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    A coerced pledge is not a pledge at all and one without understanding by those far to young to grasp the meaning of it is not one that is bidding. I would also imagine the government has no way to know for sure that I ever made this pledge even if I went to their schools.
    That may be your argument but that is not reality.
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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I have been denying offering my consent or making any sort of allegiance for many pages now. In order for someone to be a traitor they would have had to break their word and commitment to the land, but if neither was made or offered it is impossible to be a traitor.
    Denying you're a traitor is a textbook move for traitors.
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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    That may be your argument but that is not reality.
    It's all factual. They can neither prove that I said the pledge of Allegiance or show that children can make a pledge to the country when lacking the ability to consent. An oath made at gun point is no honest oath and not one that bids anyone that makes it. They can claim it does, but then they are merely oppressors at that point holding people to oaths they forced on them.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    It's all factual. They can neither prove that I said the pledge of Allegiance or show that children can make a pledge to the country when lacking the ability to consent. An oath made at gun point is no honest pledge not one that bids anyone that makes it. They claim it does, but then they are merely oppressors at this point holding people to pledge they forced on them.
    I'm not going to argue that its right. I am far from saying that. But the US government assumes you have made that pledge and judging by what happens in this country, they are acting on it. I know its not solely based on you saying the pledge of allegiance, but the fact is the government controls the average american life and any attempt to be disloyal or failure to honor that pledge will result in fines and/or imprisonment.
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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    I'm not going to argue that its right. I am far from saying that. But the US government assumes you have made that pledge and judging by what happens in this country, they are acting on it. I know its not solely based on you saying the pledge of allegiance, but the fact is the government controls the average american life and any attempt to be disloyal or failure to honor that pledge will result in fines and/or imprisonment.
    Then I challenge them to prove their case that I made the pledge or that children to young to consent can indeed consent. If they can do neither, and they can't, then their case against me is mere make believe. The government can basically do whatever it wants, but there is little doubt I'm right and would not be guilty of breaking my word.
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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Then I challenge them to prove their case that I made the pledge or that children to young to consent can indeed consent. If they can do neither, and they can't, then their case against me is mere make believe.
    They don't really have to.
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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    They don't really have to.
    I challenge them to give it their best shot if they dare. Unless of course they are not daring enough to show their balls to the world. I know they will not dare explain themselves, but it would be most humorous to watch them try.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I challenge them to give it their best shot if they dare. Unless of course they are not daring enough to show their balls to the world. I know they will not dare explain themselves, but it would be most humorous to watch them try.
    More than likely they'd snatch you up, throw you away somewhere and shrug when anyone asks.
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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    More than likely they'd snatch you up, throw you away somewhere and shrug when anyone asks.
    Then I suppose they have proven my case for me by refusing to answer my inquiry into my crime. If they can not show that I consented to their governance or made an oath to them then they have no case, and by refusing to answer they have done nothing but admit it.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Then I suppose they have proven my case for me by refusing to answer my inquiry into my crime.
    When it comes to treason, even if only perceived the government has granted themselves the power to make you go away. So you may count it as a moral victory if it ever came to that, but they are going to win.
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