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Thread: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    I think we should all have skin in the game, so I am all for the draft. I think it would stop the silly wars.

    But on the other side. When I went in the service there were still many around who remembered the draft and hated it. Said people who were drafted were **** birds, a common Marine Corps term for not very high functioning military personnel. I dont believe Marines were ever drafted, but the old guys around here probably know more. Not mentioning any names...you know who you are.
    You can be drafted in the Marines. As with any branch of service.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Draft?
    They don't need any draft.
    They can just keep it a choice, and if you do not choose to participate, just tax you into oblivion until you do serve.
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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Do you have a right to force people to fight for you? Yes or no? Why would it be any different for the government?
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    Well that is an interesting concept as it argues that the state has rights. What if the draft is for something like the war in Iraq or any other number of military adventures that don't actually increase the security of the country? Are drafts OK then? As an anarchist, I say no, the state does not have the right to force me into its armed forces.
    I'll be the first to admit, I'm not exactly sure what an "anarchist" is besides the stereotype person who wants absolutely no form of government. That being said, I don't think those types of wars would qualify for the need of a draft. It's only in a situation where the nation's survival is at stake, would a draft be warranted, and necessary.

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    I think we should all have skin in the game, so I am all for the draft. I think it would stop the silly wars.

    But on the other side. When I went in the service there were still many around who remembered the draft and hated it. Said people who were drafted were **** birds, a common Marine Corps term for not very high functioning military personnel. I don't believe Marines were ever drafted, but the old guys around here probably know more. Not mentioning any names...you know who you are.
    I think that is a very good point. Having such a large active military is like having a shiny toy in front of a small child. You keep it around him long enough, he's bound to pick it up and play with it.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    I'll be the first to admit, I'm not exactly sure what an "anarchist" is besides the stereotype person who wants absolutely no form of government. That being said, I don't think those types of wars would qualify for the need of a draft. It's only in a situation where the nation's survival is at stake, would a draft be warranted, and necessary.



    I think that is a very good point. Having such a large active military is like having a shiny toy in front of a small child. You keep it around him long enough, he's bound to pick it up and play with it.
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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    This came up in another thread. Do you believe that a country was the right to draft it's citizens into it's armed forces during a time of war.

    I personally believed that it does if that country is going to survive.


    Added in:

    In regards to the United States I'm talking about an official declaration of war being declared.
    Why not, they now mandate that you have insurance, people that are for that better not be against this

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    If that's part of the social contract then absolutely they do. If you choose to be part of a culture where that's the expectation then you also opt in to follow the rules and laws of that nation. I'm continually surprised at people who can't get that through their heads.
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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    This came up in another thread. Do you believe that a country was the right to draft it's citizens into it's armed forces during a time of war.

    I personally believed that it does if that country is going to survive.


    Added in:

    In regards to the United States I'm talking about an official declaration of war being declared.



    As I mentioned, I find the draft dubious, morally politically and so on.


    Only in the most extreme of circumstances, such as WW2, would I consider it justified as "the lesser of two evils".

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Nope, conscription is wrong. I'd think it permissible if the country was being invaded, but for an offensive war it shouldn't happen.
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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    If that's part of the social contract then absolutely they do. If you choose to be part of a culture where that's the expectation then you also opt in to follow the rules and laws of that nation. I'm continually surprised at people who can't get that through their heads.
    By definition, a contract has to be an agreement, and since there is no agreement between those that make up society there can therefore be no contract between them. Since people do not choose to be conceived or born and are offered no chance to offer their agreement there is at no point in time a contract agreed upon. You would think the notion of their being a social contract would die out over the ages, but apparently it has done nothing but grow stronger. Strange really.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    This came up in another thread. Do you believe that a country was the right to draft it's citizens into it's armed forces during a time of war.

    I personally believed that it does if that country is going to survive.


    Added in:

    In regards to the United States I'm talking about an official declaration of war being declared.
    I say yes it does. But only if another country has directly attacked ours and didn't purposely stick any ships,troops,aircraft and etc into a ongoing war zone where it would be bombed in order to intentionally pull ourselves into the war. It should never be in defense of an ally.I think many of the past wars we were unnecessarily involved.
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