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Thread: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post
    Not an easy job, I'll admit.
    And not one that is wise to grant me either.

    So yeah, you'd be a traitor. Glad we got that established.
    The people that make the rules get to declare whomever they please as a traitor even if such a declaration is impossible to have merit. Tell me, how could I possibly be a traitor? I never declared loyalty to anyone, did I? Let me guess, I'm supposed to consider any coerced pledges the government forces on me after I sign up of merit, right? Haha..no. If you coerce me to pledge allegiance to you it of no authority over me and I have no reason to consider it. You wasted your time and were quite wrong if you thought I would obey anything you forced on me.

    Well aren't you a team player.
    I don't really consider myself part of some sort of team. They are just something I find I can use to my advantage and really nothing more. Why would I consider either side of this little silly and rather pointless affair anything else?


    Wow, stunning response!

    Oh wait.

    No.
    I don't honestly care if you think I'm deserving of anything, so the answer to you is no.
    Last edited by Henrin; 12-03-13 at 10:41 PM.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    And not one that is wise to grant me either.
    I'll put you down as a maybe.



    The people that make the rules get to declare whomever they please as a traitor even if such a declaration is impossible to have merit.
    that's straight out of the traitor handbook.



    I don't really consider myself part of some sort of team. They are just something I find I can use to my advantage and really nothing more. Why would I consider either side of this little silly and rather pointless affair anything else?
    So you're just self-centered. Good to know.



    I don't honestly care if you think I'm deserving of anything, so the answer to you is no.
    Cool story, bro.
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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Yes, but only if we're invaded.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post
    I'll put you down as a maybe.
    Do you really want a medic that has no willingness to be there and little willingness to help?

    that's straight out of the traitor handbook.
    I can't be a traitor to something I never agreed to nor does that groups decisions on what a traitor is of any value to me.



    So you're just self-centered. Good to know.
    Well, what do you think you're doing when you draft people into service? Do you think you are treating them like your brother, like a comrade, your friend? No, you're using them to your advantage to get something out of them you want. You're not respecting them as people or respecting their wishes, but threatening them with violence to get them to risk their lives so that you can have another hired gun, another trained killer to protect you.

    While defecting might not be something you would do, I feel no guilt in saying I would do it if forced into military service. I fight my enemies, and have little interest in joining them, but if offered the choice between fighting those that forced me to be their servants and fighting those conquering their lands there is little doubt I'm going to pick those conquering the lands over my oppressors. I'm not joining them because I find their cause to be noble or something I agree with, but because I will have my revenge on those that wanted me as their slave.
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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    This is really stupid. and you ignore the 13th amendment
    The 13th is irrelevant since Persons will get paid for their service.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    The 13th is irrelevant since Persons will get paid for their service.
    LOL, that is still involuntary. nice try but FAIL



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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    The 13th is irrelevant since Persons will get paid for their service.
    Involuntary servitude is not dependent on compensation.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Involuntary servitude is not dependent on compensation.
    It isn't involuntary servitude but a civil obligation to the defense of the State; our Second Amendment is quite clear on that.

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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Do you really want a medic that has no willingness to be there and little willingness to help?
    We'll motivate you.



    I can't be a traitor to something I never agreed to nor does that groups decisions on what a traitor is of any value to me.
    Still a traitor.



    Well, what do you think you're doing when you draft people into service? Do you think you are treating them like your brother, like a comrade, your friend? No, you're using them to your advantage to get something out of them you want. You're not respecting them as people or respecting their wishes, but threatening them with violence to get them to risk their lives so that you can have another hired gun, another trained killer to protect you.
    You're not protecting me. You're defending the homeland.

    While defecting might not be something you would do, I feel no guilt in saying I would do it if forced into military service. I fight my enemies, and have little interest in joining them, but if offered the choice between fighting those that forced me to be their servants and fighting those conquering their lands there is little doubt I'm going to pick those conquering the lands over my oppressors. I'm not joining them because I find their cause to be noble or something I agree with, but because I will have my revenge on those that wanted me as their slave.
    What a treasonous traitor you are.
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    Re: Does a Country have the right to the draft during a time of war.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post
    We'll motivate you.
    Do your worst and I will be sure to return the favor.



    Still a traitor.
    I would be a traitor to no one as I made no allegiances to anyone on my own free will. Coerce me into an oath if it makes you feel better, but I assure you a coerced oath is no oath at all. I will betray no one regardless of any decisions I make.



    You're not protecting me. You're defending the homeland.
    I have more interest in protecting people than defending land I will never own. The only land I'm interested in defending is the land that is mine.

    What a treasonous traitor you are.
    Justice can appear like treason to those that are deserving of it.

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