Yes, between November 30, 2003-September 30, 2008
Yes, between October 1, 2008-September 30, 2013
Yes, between October 1, 2013-Today
No or I was fired more than 10 years ago
Now, this is how *I* differentiate the two, and it goes back to how I recall most people differentiating the two when I was a kid back in the 1970s...
"Fired" is when you screw up and are terminated for cause. Or, for vindictive reasons such as a personality difference.
"Laid off" is when you didn't do anything wrong at all, but for whatever reason your employer just cannot afford to employ you any more. May be due to a drop in income for the company, or whatever, but nothing of your doing specifically.
If, when defending your support for Donald Trump, and your response is,
"But but but... HILLARY!!!", then you lost the argument before you even began.
Yes, and no. I'm not sure how this actually works, if I was fired or if I quit. I think I've mentioned that trying to return to accounting after 2005 when google earth put me out of business, I found that the ethics in business had gone to hell. Previously, back in the early 70s to late 80s my job was to squeeze as much as I could out of the numbers, LEGALLY. When I returned in 2005-2008, my job was apparently to put altogether known false numbers into the reports so that it was truly fraud, not toeing some legal line. Over and over across five places, and of course we had the whole Enron debacle going on during that time, and what's-his-face was blaming his accountants, who were in fact the ones required to sign the docs that went in.... So of those five I quit four, but the first I gave an ultimatum. I told him he had to make absolutely sure that if he was going to continue to do cash jobs on the side, with the crew, with the homeowners therefore not under his business insurance umbrella but on their own homeowners' insurance due to the fact that he was not acting as a business at that time.... anyway, he had to assure that I had nothing to do with any of it, not invoicing, not recording any of the workers' times, etc. Otherwise I couldn't in good conscience sign any forms, and he'd have to sign them. Note I didn't demand he quit doing it, though I did try mildly to suggest it. Anyway, it was either keep me entirely in the dark so I could honestly say I had no idea. Well I went ahead and signed and sent in that first quarter of bogus data... Did he keep me in the dark? NO! So next quarter I refused to sign the docs and left them for him to sign, and he fired me. Now, I was already looking for another job because he had failed with my ultimatum, and would've quit asap, but legitimately, I had not yet quit.
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BothOriginally Posted by ttwtt78640;1062606844[B
Part of her deal was the way she was raised. Her parents owned their own business and had faithful dedicated staff. Because of this THEY didn't have to live by a regimented schedule; just call and make sure things were covered and go in when they felt like it. Part of it is her own carefree personality. She's really good at what she does when she's there but... Her personality type actually helps her at what she does; artsy fartsy creativity stuff.
Done that. Its now costing her, a single mom, $150 a month because her kid now has to go to extended day care after school because she can no longer leave 15 minutes earlier.Perhaps you should tell her to leave early, to make up for coming in late.
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Fired once at a pizza joint cuz i couldnt "flip/through" dough evenly. Pretty much i couldnt make a perfect circle with dough and cook a pizza evenly. AKA: I CANT COOK WORTH ****
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I've never been fired, let go, downsized or otherwise separated from a job except by my own decision
no, never been fired, was laid off 30 years ago while in college, had another job two days later