View Poll Results: What is you default motive is expressing your views?

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  • Venting; getting it off my chest.

    4 7.69%
  • Bashing those with oppositing points of view.

    5 9.62%
  • Pep-rallying those on my ideolgical team.

    1 1.92%
  • Reaching silent observers who are not pursuaded either way.

    8 15.38%
  • Winning over the hearts and minds of those with opposing views.

    5 9.62%
  • No real objective other than shpening my communications skills.

    12 23.08%
  • Other

    17 32.69%
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    Your subconscious motive in expressing your views.

    I have a friend who asked me to read a chapter in a book he's authoring. He's self publishing at his own expense and he has a history of dumping his hard earned money into his soapbox issues. What I don't get is who is he trying to reach with his book and what impact is he trying to make. I'll add, it seems the only reason he asked me to read a chapter in he book was due to some comments I made to him on politics and that seemingly offended him and that chapter gave his views on the subject. Upon reading it, I'm just shaking me head and I'm not even finished yet. It's filled with polarizing positions, offensive statements and unsubstantiated generalizations one of which is not even close to being true presented as facts.

    I initially thought he was asking for my feedback but after thinking about it, he never asked for it, was motivated by not liking what I had to say on politics in race and only started to act interested in hearing what I had to say AFTER I offered feedback based on an assumption that he wanted to hear what I had to say. He's a good guy and means no offence. I wasn't offended at all but I know others will be if he publishes what he showed me. His problem is he's passionately driven by his political/social ideology, is letting the those with no clue define large demographic groups leaving him with jack squat understanding while making very emphatic statements based on very limited understanding.

    One thing I've learned and still get caught off guard having lapses in judgment in by my participation on discussion boards is how easy it is to unintentionally offend people. Once you've offended someone, it is highly unlikely you'll be able to win them over to seeing things your way. But do most people even care about winning hearts? Are people really just interested in venting? Do people get a sense of internal affirmation by parroting the positions of their ideological team while reaching no one outside of their group? Do people get a charge out of slamming those they consider the opposition whether members the opposition his in the audience or not?

    I'm not asking what makes the most sense now that I'm ranted a bit but what has been you default motive in expressing your views?
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    Re: Your subconscious motive in expressing your views.

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    I have a friend who asked me to read a chapter in a book he's authoring. He's self publishing at his own expense and he has a history of dumping his hard earned money into his soapbox issues. What I don't get is who is he trying to reach with his book and what impact is he trying to make. I'll add, it seems the only reason he asked me to read a chapter in he book was due to some comments I made to him on politics and that seemingly offended him and that chapter gave his views on the subject. Upon reading it, I'm just shaking me head and I'm not even finished yet. It's filled with polarizing positions, offensive statements and unsubstantiated generalizations one of which is not even close to being true presented as facts.

    I initially thought he was asking for my feedback but after thinking about it, he never asked for it, was motivated by not liking what I had to say on politics in race and only started to act interested in hearing what I had to say AFTER I offered feedback based on an assumption that he wanted to hear what I had to say. He's a good guy and means no offence. I wasn't offended at all but I know others will be if he publishes what he showed me. His problem is he's passionately driven by his political/social ideology, is letting the those with no clue define large demographic groups leaving him with jack squat understanding while making very emphatic statements based on very limited understanding.

    One thing I've learned and still get caught off guard having lapses in judgment in by my participation on discussion boards is how easy it is to unintentionally offend people. Once you've offended someone, it is highly unlikely you'll be able to win them over to seeing things your way. But do most people even care about winning hearts? Are people really just interested in venting? Do people get a sense of internal affirmation by parroting the positions of their ideological team while reaching no one outside of their group? Do people get a charge out of slamming those they consider the opposition whether members the opposition his in the audience or not?

    I'm not asking what makes the most sense now that I'm ranted a bit but what has been you default motive in expressing your views?

    Venting; getting it off my chest.
    Bashing those with opposing points of view.
    Pep-rallying those on my ideological team.
    Reaching silent observers who are not persuaded either way.
    Winning over the hearts and minds of those with opposing points of view.
    No real objective other than sharpening my communications skills.
    Other.
    curious; which of your own views have been reversed after discussion on these boards?
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    Re: Your subconscious motive in expressing your views.

    [QUOTE=Smeagol;1062602077]I have a friend who asked me to read a chapter in a book he's authoring. He's self publishing at his own expense and he has a history of dumping his hard earned money into his soapbox issues. What I don't get is who is he trying to reach with his book and what impact is he trying to make. I'll add, it seems the only reason he asked me to read a chapter in he book was due to some comments I made to him on politics and that seemingly offended him and that chapter gave his views on the subject. Upon reading it, I'm just shaking me head and I'm not even finished yet. It's filled with polarizing positions, offensive statements and unsubstantiated generalizations one of which is not even close to being true presented as facts.

    I initially thought he was asking for my feedback but after thinking about it, he never asked for it, was motivated by not liking what I had to say on politics in race and only started to act interested in hearing what I had to say AFTER I offered feedback based on an assumption that he wanted to hear what I had to say. He's a good guy and means no offence. I wasn't offended at all but I know others will be if he publishes what he showed me. His problem is he's passionately driven by his political/social ideology, is letting the those with no clue define large demographic groups leaving him with jack squat understanding while making very emphatic statements based on very limited understanding.

    One thing I've learned and still get caught off guard having lapses in judgment in by my participation on discussion boards is how easy it is to unintentionally offend people. Once you've offended someone, it is highly unlikely you'll be able to win them over to seeing things your way. But do most people even care about winning hearts? Are people really just interested in venting? Do people get a sense of internal affirmation by parroting the positions of their ideological team while reaching no one outside of their group? Do people get a charge out of slamming those they consider the opposition whether members the opposition his in the audience or not?

    I'm not asking what makes the most sense now that I'm ranted a bit but what has been you default motive in expressing your views?

    Venting; getting it off my chest.
    Bashing those with opposing points of view.
    Pep-rallying those on my ideological team.
    Reaching silent observers who are not persuaded either way.
    Winning over the hearts and minds of those with opposing points of view.
    No real objective other than sharpening my communications skills.
    Other.



    My motives for expressing my point of view vary depending on the subject under discussion.

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    Re: Your subconscious motive in expressing your views.

    Venting. I'm not here to change anyone's mind, nor to fight with anyone. My mind will most definitely not be changed on anything. Largely I'm here to vent the emotions before I do it with gasoline, fertilizer, and a U-Haul Truck.

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    Re: Your subconscious motive in expressing your views.

    To think through what I think about a topic, and to combat stupid where ever I run into it at. I find the people that are the most eaisly offended are the ones with the most superficial understanding of their postion.
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    Re: Your subconscious motive in expressing your views.

    Mostly it's about enjoying myself. Fun is the capital of the internet, that other stuff is byproduct.

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    Re: Your subconscious motive in expressing your views.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Venting. I'm not here to change anyone's mind, nor to fight with anyone. My mind will most definitely not be changed on anything. Largely I'm here to vent the emotions before I do it with gasoline, fertilizer, and a U-Haul Truck.

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    Re: Your subconscious motive in expressing your views.

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    curious; which of your own views have been reversed after discussion on these boards?
    Not this board but others.

    - Drilling for oil domestically will not help defeat Middle Eastern based terrorism. Rather its the best thing we could do to insure a lucrative market for terrorists and dictators for decades by being vested ourselves in their only viable income stream.

    - America is not completely innocent with respect to the root causes of Anti-Americanism in the Middle East.

    - Gays are not evil monsters. That said, many will try to define others as such if you do not support normalizing homosexuality in the culture.

    - This particular forum is highly unique in this respect but despite claims to the contrary, discussion boards are online think like us clubs. I've seen intolerance, double standards and special censorship applied toward people not in step with the prevailing ideology on most boards.
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    Re: Your subconscious motive in expressing your views.

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    It's not humorous, Maggie. I'm completely serious. I see, hear, and read things on a daily basis that cause my stomach to turn and make me want to smack someone in the face, at the very least. Even from people and organizations that I thought I could respect, like Boston Children's Hospital. Honestly, without the ability to vent a large portion of that frustration at a place like this, God only knows what I would have done by now.

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    Re: Your subconscious motive in expressing your views.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Venting. I'm not here to change anyone's mind, nor to fight with anyone. My mind will most definitely not be changed on anything. Largely I'm here to vent the emotions before I do it with gasoline, fertilizer, and a U-Haul Truck.
    Limiting yourself to fertilizer is hardly managing the situation.


    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    It's not humorous, Maggie. I'm completely serious.

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