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Would You Surrender Your Firearms To Police Voluntarily During A Natural Disaster?

Would You Surrender Your Firearms To Police Voluntarily During A Natural Disaster?

  • Yes

    Votes: 1 1.2%

  • Depends

    Votes: 11 12.9%

  • No

    Votes: 73 85.9%
  • Total voters
    85
Re: Would You Surrender Your Firearms To Police Voluntarily During A Natural Disaster

If I had any, I wouldn't voluntarily surrender my firearms to anyone for any reason, except if I personally decided to. A person's right do not vanish because something awful happens.
 
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Not a chance in hell...
 
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Storing them with the police definitely wouldn't be my first choice. I'd much rather have family or a friend hold on to them for me. But if I had exhausted every other option available, I might take advantage of having the police hold on to some of them temporarily. I'd be keeping some to protect myself though.
 
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Sure, I'll give up my right to self defense when the crap hits the fan!

:roll:
 
Re: Would You Surrender Your Firearms To Police Voluntarily During A Natural Disaster

cpgrad08 said:
No I would not. should we voluntarily surrender other rights during natural disasters?
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Because at the time when looters are most likely to be prevalent is when you want to be least defended, in order to enable the most wealth-redistribution. What are you, some kind of heartless Randian?
 
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My first reaction was "hell, no." But then it occurred to me I can think of a situation in which I might. I would never surrender all my firearms, but if (for example) I lived in a small community where I knew the officers well, and they for whatever reason needed some guns to do their job, then I might give up some of my hardware. But I would never do so if I didn't know personally the people to whom I was giving up the guns. So my "depends" vote is fairly slim...
 
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Carjosse said:
Recently the extent of the political pressure the RCMP got when it seized firearms from people's unsecured homes during the summer flooding in High River, Alberta was revealed. The Conservatives demanded the seized guns be returned to the owners. What the RCMP like to point is most of the firearms (more than 600 to be exact) they had in storage were voluntarily given to the police to be safeguarded during the disaster along with half a million rounds of ammunition. My question to you is if say your house was damaged and flooded, torn apart, burned, etc. by a natural disaster and have no safe place to store them would you surrender your firearms voluntarily to the police for safe keeping until you could return home and store them safely.
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I'm not a gun person, but why bring that kind of red tape into your life?
 
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Carjosse said:
So why not with the police who are offering that service?
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Because they're from the gub'ment.:stop:
 
Re: Would You Surrender Your Firearms To Police Voluntarily During A Natural Disaster

Seems to me the RCMP gathered the guns up to safe guard them from looters. Am I mistaken? They gave the guns back didn't they?
 
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In my state, It is illegal for police (or any government entity) to take weapons from people during a disaster.
 
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cpwill said:
Because at the time when looters are most likely to be prevalent is when you want to be least defended, in order to enable the most wealth-redistribution. What are you, some kind of heartless Randian?
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I guess I'm just heartless since I want to protect my property. ;)

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Carjosse said:
Recently the extent of the political pressure the RCMP got when it seized firearms from people's unsecured homes during the summer flooding in High River, Alberta was revealed. The Conservatives demanded the seized guns be returned to the owners. What the RCMP like to point is most of the firearms (more than 600 to be exact) they had in storage were voluntarily given to the police to be safeguarded during the disaster along with half a million rounds of ammunition. My question to you is if say your house was damaged and flooded, torn apart, burned, etc. by a natural disaster and have no safe place to store them would you surrender your firearms voluntarily to the police for safe keeping until you could return home and store them safely.
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They also forced their way into homes to collect them also.

And no I would not hand over my firearms for "safekeeping".
 
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Carjosse said:
Recently the extent of the political pressure the RCMP got when it seized firearms from people's unsecured homes during the summer flooding in High River, Alberta was revealed. The Conservatives demanded the seized guns be returned to the owners. What the RCMP like to point is most of the firearms (more than 600 to be exact) they had in storage were voluntarily given to the police to be safeguarded during the disaster along with half a million rounds of ammunition. My question to you is if say your house was damaged and flooded, torn apart, burned, etc. by a natural disaster and have no safe place to store them would you surrender your firearms voluntarily to the police for safe keeping until you could return home and store them safely.
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Not no, but hell no...
 
Re: Would You Surrender Your Firearms To Police Voluntarily During A Natural Disaster

In the case of High River looting was not a problem, for a few reasons the people are good people, and secondly much of the town was under 5 feet of water. The people had safe places to go, either hotels, friends or family in the region, so their safety was not an issue.

Given that in Canada carrying guns when not going hunting, or going to the shooting range is generally illegal, the only place to store the guns during the flooding was in the house, often not secured as is required by the law. Placing under the bed is not considered secured. Most would have stored them in the past in the basement in a gun safe, but that was being flooded
 
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Lord Tammerlain said:
In the case of High River looting was not a problem, for a few reasons the people are good people, and secondly much of the town was under 5 feet of water. The people had safe places to go, either hotels, friends or family in the region, so their safety was not an issue.

Given that in Canada carrying guns when not going hunting, or going to the shooting range is generally illegal, the only place to store the guns during the flooding was in the house, often not secured as is required by the law. Placing under the bed is not considered secured. Most would have stored them in the past in the basement in a gun safe, but that was being flooded
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Canada can do whatever they see fit, it's their country.

But on the water level part of this post, I don't think that was it, hell, NOLA had 20ft in some parts during Katrina, people waded through five and six feet of water to get to the dry areas where they looted not food, but electronics and whatever else they wanted from stores and homes. Worst part is, some of the city police force joined them!
 
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LaMidRighter said:
Canada can do whatever they see fit, it's their country.

But on the water level part of this post, I don't think that was it, hell, NOLA had 20ft in some parts during Katrina, people waded through five and six feet of water to get to the dry areas where they looted not food, but electronics and whatever else they wanted from stores and homes. Worst part is, some of the city police force joined them!
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Are Canadians really that much more law abiding than Americans?
 
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Dittohead not! said:
Are Canadians really that much more law abiding than Americans?
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Well we don't have cultural hatred of the police or government and we are not afraid the government is coming for our guns.
 
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Dittohead not! said:
Are Canadians really that much more law abiding than Americans?
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Gotta be man. I hear about something bad in a major Canadian city and it's something that would have shocked us forty years ago. I hear about a random everyday event in NOLA on any given weekend and it dwarfs what just happened in Toronto. Country for country I don't think our people are that different as far as holding to civic duty and abiding by law, but I think our criminally minded are a bit more aggressive.
 
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Carjosse said:
Well we don't have cultural hatred of the police or government and we are not afraid the government is coming for our guns.
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They already took your guns. Lol
 
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Phil_Osophy said:
They already took your guns. Lol
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We still have our hunting rifles and shotguns and concealed carry is technically legal.
 
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Re: Would You Surrender Your Firearms To Police Voluntarily During A Natural Disaster

Back when I lived in the US -- yeah, sure. Why not?

I don't get why everyone's so up-in-arms (haha) about their guns. It's just another possession -- if for safety reasons the police needed to confiscate all my cheese during a disaster, I'd say go ahead.

Guns are no different.
 
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Ad_Captandum said:
Back when I lived in the US -- yeah, sure. Why not?

I don't get why everyone's so up-in-arms (haha) about their guns. It's just another possession -- if for safety reasons the police needed to confiscate all my cheese during a disaster, I'd say go ahead.

Guns are no different.
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ROFL.


I see your lean is "socialist"....
 
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LaMidRighter said:
Gotta be man. I hear about something bad in a major Canadian city and it's something that would have shocked us forty years ago. I hear about a random everyday event in NOLA on any given weekend and it dwarfs what just happened in Toronto. Country for country I don't think our people are that different as far as holding to civic duty and abiding by law, but I think our criminally minded are a bit more aggressive.
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It sounds like the Canadians don't have as great of a need to carry weapons.
 
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Goshin said:
ROFL.


I see your lean is "socialist"....
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Indeed it is. Do you have a refutation of my point, or merely an intrinsic reaction against people, places and ideas that are different from yours?

Everyone here is socialist; this is Britain. But we're more free than you, despite the fact that we don't blast each-other away with semi-automatic weapons by the thousands.

Do you have anything to say?
 
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Ad_Captandum said:
Indeed it is. Do you have a refutation of my point, or merely an intrinsic reaction against people, places and ideas that are different from yours?

Everyone here is socialist; this is Britain. But we're more free than you, despite the fact that we don't blast each-other away with semi-automatic weapons by the thousands.

Do you have anything to say?
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You wish a more extensive reply, then you shall have one.

My initial response was frankly a moment of slack-jawed surprise that you'd express cheerful acceptance to government confiscation of ANYTHING you owned, whether it made any sense or not, simply because government said so.

Then I saw your lean was socialist, and sighed a bit... that is one of the ideologies where one tends to find state-worship and unthinking compliance with anything the State says, yes.


Okay, you're Brit... your assertion that all Britons are socialist is patently false, but I'll grant that the bulk of your population leans that way... and that Britain hasn't known real freedom in so long that it is no surprise you'd take that viewpoint. Hell you can't even carry a pocketknife in London without some kind of legally acceptable excuse, which is as astonishing to Americans as requiring a license to possess cheese. :)


Suffice it to say that such a blind, unthinking obedience to government commands is anathema to the American mind. Especially where it makes no sense, such as the cheese example. :)
 
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