I'm not sure you or many of the people who initially responded to the OP actually read it.
Let's looking at the phrasing in the thread. People declaring that they wouldn't "turn in" or "turn over" their weapons or "submit" to "government confiscation."
I find that a little odd since the OP had nothing to do with forced action. In fact, the OP was basically a bait to all the ra-ra-ra! gun owners and, lo and behold, you all took it, hook, line, and sinker.
All he was asking is if you'd accept a fairly basic service from a fairly basic government body. Nobody even bothered with the bit in the OP about the fact that the vast majority were voluntarily given for safe-keeping.
Most of the time, decent people just say "no, thanks" if they don't trust the service being offered and move on. But no, not the guys in this thread. This isn't an issue of politeness, it's an issue of Rights! We can't let the government offer us services to which we can say "no" and then find a work-around, right!?
Utter nonsense. Socialists are not members of a sovereign borg; they've just got different ideas about how government ought to operate. "Worship" is, on the very best and brightest of days, a massive exaggeration.
Before you speak again, know that I'm a capitalist who generally believes that the government is more involved in peoples' lives than it ought to be, but I'm not about to declare all socialists government sycophants or anything silly like that.
I'm always amused to hear an American say things like "real freedom." Isn't the argument that there's no such thing? I thought you were either fully free or fully a slave? Isn't that how the argument goes?
You are aware, of course, that there are places in America where it is, in point of fact, illegal to carry many pocketknives, such as in New York City, America's largest city, under any circumstances whatsoever ("legally acceptable" doesn't exist), yes? If you're using London as an example, then shouldn't New York City be an example that yanks also don't know what "real freedom," whatever the vengeance that is, is?
You mentioned that London's regulation of pocketknives is "astonishing to Americans." In lieu of the fact that you clearly didn't know that certain American cities operate the same way, shall we simply say that you must have been so astonished when you got this information that you still don't believe how socialist your own nation has become?
(Out of curiosity, what does socialism have to do with pocketknives? I don't know, but I daresay neither does anybody else, so I won't feel bad.)
I cannot help but enjoy the irony, Sir. Thank you for your post.
Last edited by Mordecai; 11-30-13 at 03:46 PM. Reason: grammatical revisions
I would never accept such a "service", nor would i support it being offered by the government
Excluding liberal sh¡tholes, america is pretty free
"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"
Cicero Marcus Tullius