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    Re: Would You Surrender Your Firearms To Police Voluntarily During A Natural Disaster

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Cigarettes hardly cost anything to 'produce'...but they still cost...what...5-6 bucks a pack these days?
    Probably about that. It's mostly due to taxes, of course.

    How does that compare to the cost of illegal drugs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Probably about that. It's mostly due to taxes, of course.

    How does that compare to the cost of illegal drugs?
    Looking at projected estimates, it aint pretty...

    “based on a production cost of $2 per gram… the after-tax retail price will be $17 per gram, or $482 per ounce. Another projection, based on a production cost of $3 per gram, puts the retail price at $25.50 per gram, or $723 per ounce.”

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    Compared to what is projected today to be about $28.00 an oz. I cant really relate to any of this stuff...back in the 70's a 5 finger lid would go for about 20 bucks...and thats the last time I could give you any personal feel for the market.

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    Re: Would You Surrender Your Firearms To Police Voluntarily During A Natural Disaster

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Looking at projected estimates, it aint pretty...

    “based on a production cost of $2 per gram… the after-tax retail price will be $17 per gram, or $482 per ounce. Another projection, based on a production cost of $3 per gram, puts the retail price at $25.50 per gram, or $723 per ounce.”

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    Compared to what is projected today to be about $28.00 an oz. I cant really relate to any of this stuff...back in the 70's a 5 finger lid would go for about 20 bucks...and thats the last time I could give you any personal feel for the market.
    That's factoring in more than 800% markup.

    With that kind of a markup, gas would cost more here than it does in Europe.
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    Re: Would You Surrender Your Firearms To Police Voluntarily During A Natural Disaster

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    That's factoring in more than 800% markup.

    With that kind of a markup, gas would cost more here than it does in Europe.
    Not my figures. Not Forbes either. Thats what is projected. Heck...the wise man will develop a little agro-skillz and grow their own.

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    Re: Would You Surrender Your Firearms To Police Voluntarily During A Natural Disaster

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Not my figures. Not Forbes either. Thats what is projected. Heck...the wise man will develop a little agro-skillz and grow their own.
    Absolutely.
    And competition will cut back that 800% markup some, too.
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    Re: Would You Surrender Your Firearms To Police Voluntarily During A Natural Disaster

    Where I live gun safes are almost as common as refrigerators. I don't think I'd have a problem finding a friend to hang on to them.

    BTW I'm an emergency responder. If there is a disaster I'm pretty much expected to be armed.

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    Re: Would You Surrender Your Firearms To Police Voluntarily During A Natural Disaster

    As I am not a gun owner nor have plans to be one, this would be very theoretical of me to respond. Nevertheless, what strikes me as odd is that the police would really even come up in my head as an option for storage (regardless of weather conditions). The nearest entity I could potentially see being fine is if you are a university student and in order to comply with the campus regs, you store them over their police department. No big deal, my friends did that plenty of times. Otherwise, I would be pretty hard pressed to think of a reason why I would really want to give a state entity expensive property that could easily be misplaced or held up through some bureaucratic hell. On top of that, what if large numbers of people actually take advantage of such a thing? Would it be possible that with more weapons to keep track of, more mistakes would occur?
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    Re: Would You Surrender Your Firearms To Police Voluntarily During A Natural Disaster

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    Recently the extent of the political pressure the RCMP got when it seized firearms from people's unsecured homes during the summer flooding in High River, Alberta was revealed. The Conservatives demanded the seized guns be returned to the owners. What the RCMP like to point is most of the firearms (more than 600 to be exact) they had in storage were voluntarily given to the police to be safeguarded during the disaster along with half a million rounds of ammunition. My question to you is if say your house was damaged and flooded, torn apart, burned, etc. by a natural disaster and have no safe place to store them would you surrender your firearms voluntarily to the police for safe keeping until you could return home and store them safely.
    NO, not just no but hell no. I got plenty of places that I trust to keep them.

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    Re: Would You Surrender Your Firearms To Police Voluntarily During A Natural Disaster

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Potentially there is, but it would have been a law from the early 1800s and if it exists, it has no planning for it, and I would suggest no one knows about it
    It sounds like a "market failure" in leadership.

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    Re: Would You Surrender Your Firearms To Police Voluntarily During A Natural Disaster

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    As I am not a gun owner nor have plans to be one, this would be very theoretical of me to respond. Nevertheless, what strikes me as odd is that the police would really even come up in my head as an option for storage (regardless of weather conditions). The nearest entity I could potentially see being fine is if you are a university student and in order to comply with the campus regs, you store them over their police department. No big deal, my friends did that plenty of times. Otherwise, I would be pretty hard pressed to think of a reason why I would really want to give a state entity expensive property that could easily be misplaced or held up through some bureaucratic hell. On top of that, what if large numbers of people actually take advantage of such a thing? Would it be possible that with more weapons to keep track of, more mistakes would occur?
    That is another concern I would have. I worked for a state agency at one point. The amount of incompetence was staggering. Excess spending, poor storage methods, 0 organizational skills, ridiculous red tape for no other reason than to be annoying, thieving employees, and just general crap all the way around. I wouldn't trust them with a penny...let alone my gun.
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